Pontiac coming back?

[102SS]

Originally Posted by GreenZLE

LOL!

I have to say though, not having a lock on the glovebox is one of the dumbest things GM has ever done. I dont get it.

IMO, Pontiac catered to people with a bigger build. Seats in Chevy's were made for skinny people, Pontiac's had wide/flatter seats for fat people.

If a thief breaks into your car the last thing you want is your glove box locked.

They will just tear it off and destroy your interior.

[GreenZLE]

Originally Posted by 102SS

If a thief breaks into your car the last thing you want is your glove box locked.

They will just tear it off and destroy your interior.

A locked glovebox is needed in some locations to transport loaded magazines.

I'm all for them destroying the whole car before they get anything and it gives me more time to fix them.

[102SS]

Originally Posted by GreenZLE

A locked glovebox is needed in some locations to transport loaded magazines.

I'm all for them destroying the whole car before they get anything and it gives me more time to fix them.

What is wrong with carrying a portable gun safe in your trunk?

[GreenZLE]

Originally Posted by 102SS

What is wrong with carrying a portable gun safe in your trunk?

Whats wrong with a manufacturer providing a locked glovebox like they have for 80 years? Better yet, it would be great to have one that was difficult to break into.

[102SS]

Originally Posted by GreenZLE

Whats wrong with a manufacturer providing a locked glovebox like they have for 80 years? Better yet, it would be great to have one that was difficult to break into.

You could always get one custom made.

I am pretty sure the OEM's design them to hold your owners manual your GF's spare hair brush and stuff like that

[Evergreen6]

Originally Posted by 102SS

You could always get one custom made.

I am pretty sure the OEM's design them to hold your owners manual your GF's spare hair brush and stuff like that

Ever wonder where "glove box" got its name?

[102SS]

Originally Posted by Evergreen6

Ever wonder where "glove box" got its name?

Back in the real old times people wore driving gloves

I only wear gloves in the winter when I have to hold that freezing cold plastic thing the Australians call a steering wheel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glove_compartment

[silversleeper]

I was going to make a long list of things like if it had this or that as other cars have. I'll keep it short.
The basics of safety found standard in Honda and Toyota like emergency braking and traffic warnings on sides and backing up. Big backup and side cams.
Then there are so many things you don't know you are missing until you get a car with them. I now love the "key" in my smartphone that I don't even need to take out of my pocket or find the buttons. Just walk near the car and its on and ready to go and when I am done with the trip open the door and walk off. It put's itself in park, shuts off the car (EV) and locks it and chirps to let you know it did it's job. Paired with fingerprint front door house lock I don't need to hassle with any keys now!
Sitting up higher like a pickup is great also. I won't ever go back to a sedan or non EV due to driving experience.
Should I hold my breath for GM to catch up or pass?

[Cheap Guy]

Originally Posted by GreenZLE

Whats wrong with a manufacturer providing a locked glovebox like they have for 80 years? Better yet, it would be great to have one that was difficult to break into.

You'll love the glove box in the new Cadillac Lyriq. There's a good video going around showing how you have to actually go through the screen menu to open the glove box! Smh.

[Evergreen6]

Originally Posted by silversleeper

I was going to make a long list of things like if it had this or that as other cars have. I'll keep it short.
The basics of safety found standard in Honda and Toyota like emergency braking and traffic warnings on sides and backing up. Big backup and side cams.
Then there are so many things you don't know you are missing until you get a car with them. I now love the "key" in my smartphone that I don't even need to take out of my pocket or find the buttons. Just walk near the car and its on and ready to go and when I am done with the trip open the door and walk off. It put's itself in park, shuts off the car (EV) and locks it and chirps to let you know it did it's job. Paired with fingerprint front door house lock I don't need to hassle with any keys now!
Sitting up higher like a pickup is great also. I won't ever go back to a sedan or non EV due to driving experience.
Should I hold my breath for GM to catch up or pass?

You know GM makes EV's including trucks and crossovers, right? And GM has emergency braking and cameras...

I don't know if they have passive entry with phone or not, but personally I can skip that feature. We have it in another vehicle (EV) and it's more "hassle" than it's worth.

[FarmerFran]

The only reason GM would bring back Pontiac is for nostalgia, and most of those people are about aged out.

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by Cheap Guy

You'll love the glove box in the new Cadillac Lyriq. There's a good video going around showing how you have to actually go through the screen menu to open the glove box! Smh.

The glovebox in one of my cars can only be opened from the touchscreen or by voice command. It has the option of requiring a passcode. Very safe place to keep a concealed.

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by Evergreen6

You know GM makes EV's including trucks and crossovers, right? And GM has emergency braking and cameras...

I don't know if they have passive entry with phone or not, but personally I can skip that feature. We have it in another vehicle (EV) and it's more "hassle" than it's worth.

They do. Even the $35k Equinox EV has flush door handles that present when you are within close proximity of the vehicle with your cellphone / key. And if you stand near the tailgate for something like 10 seconds or so it assumes you want to open the tailgate and opens it automatically.

https://youtu.be/VYqnQlsWCHI?si=bvlHyEebQ2Lzvmq5

[Evergreen6]

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

They do. Even the $35k Equinox EV has flush door handles that present when you are within close proximity of the vehicle with your cellphone / key. And if you stand near the tailgate for something like 10 seconds or so it assumes you want to open the tailgate and opens it automatically.

https://youtu.be/VYqnQlsWCHI?si=bvlHyEebQ2Lzvmq5

This is the part I struggle with re: proximity keys. Walking past our EV in the garage means it lights up and gets ready to go. My phone is in my pocket and I've gone to the garage to fetch something else. I didn't intend to drive the car.

Trying to wash it or clean the interior is a *show. Walk away, and it locks. Walk near it, it unlocks. Swipe under the rear bumper and the hatch will open. Touch the screen with a cleaning towel and the dash lights up because it's taken input. Accidentally press a button on the console and the infotainment wants input, or it's already taken input and is doing something I didn't actually intend to do.

And that's one issue I have with modern vehicles. There are so many settings, modes, and overly "helpful" aides and configurations, and they're all programmed differently, behave differently. It's like how video games evolved from "Pong" to 17 sequels of an RPG with an elaborate plot line that takes thousands of hours to conquer and requires a significant investment of time/energy/machinery just to play it. I'm not dumb, it's just at this stage in life I struggle to find these things ultimately useful or worthy of the time/energy to fully understand and configure them. A physical key and simple fob in hand is something I think we all took for granted, and its evolution I think is an answer to questions that weren't necessarily being asked. Perhaps by people who find a simple car key to be a "hassle". Me? I'm of the belief that a hammer can be a very elegant and versatile tool. I find this new stuff to be a "hassle", and don't appreciate the fact that for most of these cars there doesn't seem to be an simple "dumb" mode, or if there is, it takes pages of reading and configuration to dial back it's supposed helpfulness.

Our EV has a partial self-driving mode. I don't trust it. It's a gimmick. I'm still responsible for the car and my own safety, and the safety of others, and I have to second-guess what it's doing and be ready to take over if it does something stupid, which it does. I also can't train it to NOT drive like a teenager. It follows too close, brakes too hard, and doesn't anticipate things in extended sight distance. I tried to let it do its thing while I had to eat breakfast on the run, and yeah, I can kind of see where it's helpful so you can momentarily take your eyes off the road or reduce the level of input needed, but ultimately we as drivers shouldn't be doing that. Shouldn't be eating on the run, shouldn't be taking our eyes off the road.

But I digress and get distracted. I'm still waiting for a manufacturer who will produce an arguably performance-oriented EV where there isn't an equal purpose to automate and simplify (through overhead of configuration and prediction) the driving experience. To really take control of our iX I have to configure it that way, and that's one thing I find to be incredibly annoying as a driver/enthusiast.