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Old 09-02-2021, 07:18 AM   #85
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Old 09-02-2021, 12:41 PM   #87
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A Harvard epidemiologists new study shows people with both shots are 27 times more likely to get the mutant strain of china virus. This follows along with the Israeli study very well.
Meanwhile the euro CDC is reporting no current reason for a 3rd shot.
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Old 09-02-2021, 01:42 PM   #88
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A Harvard epidemiologists new study shows people with both shots are 27 times more likely to get the mutant strain of china virus. This follows along with the Israeli study very well.
Meanwhile the euro CDC is reporting no current reason for a 3rd shot.
To clarify though, that is 27 times more likely than someone who has already had Covid and has natural immunity - not unvaccinated people:

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The natural immune protection that develops after a SARS-CoV-2 infection offers considerably more of a shield against the Delta variant of the pandemic coronavirus than two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, according to a large Israeli study that some scientists wish came with a “Don’t try this at home” label. The newly released data show people who once had a SARS-CoV-2 infection were much less likely than never-infected, vaccinated people to get Delta, develop symptoms from it, or become hospitalized with serious COVID-19.

The study demonstrates the power of the human immune system, but infectious disease experts emphasized that this vaccine and others for COVID-19 nonetheless remain highly protective against severe disease and death.
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The researchers also found that people who had SARS-CoV-2 previously and received one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine were more highly protected against reinfection than those who once had the virus and were still unvaccinated.
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Unvaccinated people are about 29 times more likely to be hospitalized with Covid-19 than those who are fully vaccinated, according to a CDC study released Tuesday.

The new study also found that unvaccinated people were nearly five times more likely to be infected with Covid than vaccinated people.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/24/cdc-...ith-covid.html

All that said, getting a vaccine is a choice and everyone has to make that choice for themselves.
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Old 09-02-2021, 08:31 PM   #89
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You know, in a perfect world, wouldn’t it be refreshing to have just two websites that you could REALLY trust? One called, Truth.org and another called, Bullshit.org. Instead, the two are so intertwined, it’s impossible to know the real truth. We’re essentially relegated to faith. Which might be the best ‘site’ of all.

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Old 09-02-2021, 09:46 PM   #90
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You know, in a perfect world, wouldn’t it be refreshing to have just two websites that you could REALLY trust? One called, Truth.org and another called, Bullshit.org. Instead, the two are so intertwined, it’s impossible to know the real truth. We’re essentially relegated to faith. Which might be the best ‘site’ of all.

May your mileage not vary!
We have great sites already, but we’re going through weird time when we’re distrustful of everything. Joe Rogan for example just took a livestock dewormer to fight COVID.
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We have great sites already, but we’re going through weird time when we’re distrustful of everything. Joe Rogan for example just took a livestock dewormer to fight COVID.
See what you did, you bought the BS narrative. I rest my case. And guess what, he's probably now as healthy as a...horse. Millions were given it in India. But you won't find that on the MSM.
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We have great sites already, but we’re going through weird time when we’re distrustful of everything. Joe Rogan for example just took a livestock dewormer to fight COVID.
He is rich AF and could afford the best treatment anywhere. The fact that he took Ivermectin, after all the people he has interviewed, speaks volumes.
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Old 09-03-2021, 12:02 PM   #93
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He is rich AF and could afford the best treatment anywhere. The fact that he took Ivermectin, after all the people he has interviewed, speaks volumes.
Reasonable point. The bottom line is, Ivermectin has been used by over 3.7 billion PEOPLE over the course of decades to treat parasitic worm infections in HUMAN adults and children. Generally in more 3rd world locations. They fact that it works on animals as well is simply proof that is has uses for other ‘indications.’

And since the ‘science’ has used the WHO for much of its information, it’s worth noting that Ivermectin is on their, Model List of Essential Medicines. Again, for HUMANS, not livestock!

There is ONE reason why you’re not being told it works. The patent expired decades ago and no one makes much money from the sale of it.
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Rogan is also taking monoclonal antibodies, which have been proven to work.

Ivermectin can be used for humans but I think the concern is that people are self-treating, taking the horse sized dosage, etc. Maybe it does work - properly administered, at the proper human dosage maybe it should be investigated - but it’s a drug with some pretty bad side effects as well.

Without some sort of study, no one has any idea if it works or doesn’t. Things like “I took Ivermectin and got better” or “Joe Rogan took it” doesn’t necessarily mean it works.
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Rogan is also taking monoclonal antibodies, which have been proven to work.

Ivermectin can be used for humans but I think the concern is that people are self-treating, taking the horse sized dosage, etc. Maybe it does work - properly administered, at the proper human dosage maybe it should be investigated - but it’s a drug with some pretty bad side effects as well.

Without some sort of study, no one has any idea if it works or doesn’t. Things like “I took Ivermectin and got better” or “Joe Rogan took it” doesn’t necessarily mean it works.
There have been studies. But like anything, and especially related to this subject, you have to be careful with the, “cherry picking.” Doctors, scientists and other med pros tend to cite studies to fit a particular bias. Ivermectin and Hydroxychloriquin got a bad rap early on because trials were done with hospitalized patients at late stages of the disease. Both of those medications had poor results late in the disease, even in large doses. Conversely, both of those medications had very good results if taken at the onset of COVID-19. If you are of the mindset to try either one of those, don’t wait until you get worse!

I would tend to agree that Rogan didn’t give us all the information.
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The water bucket analogy:

“A bucket of water can have good results in extinguishing a small fire. Once the house has burned down, massive amounts of water won’t do any good, and potentially add to the destruction.”
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Good old Pfizer is in advanced trials for a twice a day pill for the wuhan flu.
Sure hope they come in different colors like M&Ms.

Damn, now i want M&Ms.
Probably as effective as anything Pfizer puts out anyhow.
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Good old Pfizer is in advanced trials for a twice a day pill for the wuhan flu.
Sure hope they come in different colors like M&Ms.

Damn, now i want M&Ms.
Probably as effective as anything Pfizer puts out anyhow.
I take a 1/4 of their blue one everyday. I just need it to stick out far enough I don't pee on my shoes.
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