Is it just me...

hollywoodGU · 06-04-2010, 12:35 AM

...or are the mods on here starting to go crazy with the shutting down of threads???

I'm sure this will get closed to and I'll get a warning or ban or something...but IMO its really ruining this site...We are all (most of us atleast) adults here...as long as things dont get crazy out of control we can govern ourselves. Two great recent examples are
1. The global warming thread that ppl were joking and having a good time on
and
2. Scotty's thread that he was saying goodbye on....

IDK i think its alienating people...it is for me at least...dont know how much longer I am willing to stay on a site that has nazi-like mods

WadeWilson · 06-04-2010, 10:21 AM

IBTL...no comment

Iwantone2 · 06-04-2010, 10:35 AM

A favorite classic:

bozbot · 06-04-2010, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodGU

2. Scotty's thread that he was saying goodbye on....

why is scotty leaving?

BigRigMike · 06-04-2010, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodGU

...or are the mods on here starting to go crazy with the shutting down of threads???

I'm sure this will get closed to and I'll get a warning or ban or something...but IMO its really ruining this site...We are all (most of us atleast) adults here...as long as things dont get crazy out of control we can govern ourselves. Two great recent examples are
1. The global warming thread that ppl were joking and having a good time on
and
2. Scotty's thread that he was saying goodbye on....

IDK i think its alienating people...it is for me at least...dont know how much longer I am willing to stay on a site that has nazi-like mods

All global warming threads are shut down before they get out of hand because they can take a nasty turn very fast.

hollywoodGU · 06-04-2010, 01:59 PM

This just proves my point, people dont even know Scotty is gone because the thread was deleted AND justt because something could go ad its locked? Mustang vs camaro threads go bad 75% of the time but i dont see those getting locked anytime one pops up. That global warming thread was obviously light hearted and no one was getting upset

bozbot · 06-04-2010, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Blackhawk

Scotty left because........if I say Ill get banned.

This thread will disappear too.

Lots of things vanish from this site though.

would you please PM me the reason?

Iwantone2 · 06-04-2010, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bozbot

would you please PM me the reason?

Would you please PM me when you know?

Xanthos · 06-04-2010, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stang_Killer

IBTL...no comment

@ SK. You're a whore.

@ the OP. The mods always have a reason for closing or deleting a thread. Whether or not its a good reason can often be largely up to personal opinion, but I've never seen them shut down a thread just to be mean (though they did once play a practical joke on us with PWA).

I won't claim that I've agreed with every decision that the mod team/Tran has made (and sometimes I've flat out thought that a decision was terrible) but they're just trying to do the best that they can to keep this forum a good place to be for as many people as possible.
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*GTAHVIT* · 06-04-2010, 03:16 PM

OK....

wow, where to begin...

First off... there is a lot that goes on behind the scenes that you guys don't see.

Mostly because the stuff that gets deleted is only going to stir the pot and put one group against another. Not because we have some deep dark secret that Camaro5.com is trying to hide.

As a general rule anything that will instigate a fight will get closed. Look at all the Mustang threads that we leave open until it gets ugly then we close it.... it used to happen weekly...

A lot of times when we have a parting of the ways with a member, we choose not to respond as we'd rather not appear to be bashing anyone. obviously we have the upper hand as we can delete and edit anything that gets posted here. so for us to go toe to toe with members in most cases just makes us look bad... So in the end we just close or delete it so the site and our members don't have to deal with the drama that comes with being a site this big.

Some sites hang out the dirty laundry for all to see... we'd rather not do that. We'd rather keep the drama to a minimum so the majority of our members can just enjoy the site and be a part of the community.

I'm not going to comment on Scotty. He and I do not get along nor do we see eye to eye. So it would not be fair for me in particular to comment. I'm biased.

But we did not force him to leave. And he is welcome back should he choose to come back. But like any member he has to play by the same rules as anyone else.

As I said earlier.....

We prefer to keep the bickering and controversial stuff off our boards. Even if it makes us look bad at times. For now it seems to be working.... I don't see us changing the way this site is run any time soon.

And no, I won't close the thread, nor will anyone else, until it becomes disrespectful or argumentative.

FWIW.

*DGthe3* · 06-04-2010, 03:27 PM

I'd like to add a further note on CamaroScotty. He claimed that because of the new sponsorship rules, and since his boss says they cannot afford the fees, he would not be able to answer questions and left before he received a permanent ban for violating sponsorship rules. For the record, CamaroScotty is always completely welcome to stick around as an enthusiast just like 99% of the members. But he cannot stay to sell cars, unless he becomes a site sponsor like every other vendor on the site.

CamaroScotty · 06-04-2010, 04:16 PM

The mods are correct for the most part above -

I really can't be here to help, as some of the questions may work themselves into "business" communications, which I can't have being a non-sponsor. C5 has chosen a paid sponsorship program, fair enough. I have sponsored other sites prior to their invite, and I just can't do more and more. Had it started much earlier when I inquired about it, that may have been different. It it may change in the future.

Yes there are MANY people I respect here (including some MODS), and yes GTAHVIT and I tend not to get along. Perhaps if he met me in person rather than reading the text I type, he might get a different impression - but I won't hold that against him

Don't think of me as gone....think of me as "transparent". I'm easy to find so no one's abandoned....Hopefully this clears up some of the questions so no drama needs to unfold. No need to blame anyone or anything - so for me, let it rest. Go in your Camaro, grab the Sammy Hager CD, play "I can't drive 55"....that's how life SHOULD be lived!

Thanks guys & C5.

masterofpuppets · 06-04-2010, 04:26 PM

As a former moderator of a different forum (and a large gaming one no less, which is worse then car forums), it's ALWAYS better to close/lock before something gets out of hand. And this is the internet.....it'll always get out of hand. The mods here do a pretty damn good job of A)keeping it in order and B)keeping things where they belong and keeping the forum uncluttered.

skuttduck · 06-04-2010, 04:42 PM

I can tell you I've quietly left a forum for real petty stuff. I really hope things don't get to the point where you can't say things like "damn" or "sucks"

In the one case I wrote, I can't keep these corals worth a dämn and had someone edit it. Saying sucks? There are many legit reasons to say "sucks" such as "I need to get my air hose to suck more air" Yet that word was censored.
One of the pet stores who sponsored the forum was called "Moby Dicks" and I am sure you can guess the word that was censored in that. You couldn't even talk about the name of the sponsor without your post being edited. It seemed those that got to be a mod on that board were looking for a reason to ban.

I've seen the mods doing a pretty good job. I also noticed that they don't seem to do double standards. There was once a thread someone started about complaining that Camaro scotty was banned. I am not sure of the circumstances, nor do I need to know. What it did show me was that people weren't getting special treatment.

I also noticed that a question was asked, and us members can talk about vendors who are not sponsors. So I think that is good. We can suggest to a member that they go to Newman Chevrolet, and I don't think that violates any rules.

I've also looked at history of the persons posts when I see account suspended to see what exactly they were suspended for. I really haven't come across any that I think were petty.

06-04-2010, 12:35 AM	#1
hollywoodGU Drives: 1999 Firebird Formula Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Monmouth, OR Posts: 656 View My Garage	Is it just me... ...or are the mods on here starting to go crazy with the shutting down of threads??? I'm sure this will get closed to and I'll get a warning or ban or something...but IMO its really ruining this site...We are all (most of us atleast) adults here...as long as things dont get crazy out of control we can govern ourselves. Two great recent examples are 1. The global warming thread that ppl were joking and having a good time on and 2. Scotty's thread that he was saying goodbye on.... IDK i think its alienating people...it is for me at least...dont know how much longer I am willing to stay on a site that has nazi-like mods

06-04-2010, 10:35 AM	#3
Iwantone2 Voice Of The Voiceless Drives: CGM 1SS RS Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: OC Cali Posts: 9,610 View My Garage	A favorite classic: __________________

06-04-2010, 03:16 PM	#10
GTAHVIT Blessed Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,441 View My Garage	OK.... wow, where to begin... First off... there is a lot that goes on behind the scenes that you guys don't see. Mostly because the stuff that gets deleted is only going to stir the pot and put one group against another. Not because we have some deep dark secret that Camaro5.com is trying to hide. As a general rule anything that will instigate a fight will get closed. Look at all the Mustang threads that we leave open until it gets ugly then we close it.... it used to happen weekly... A lot of times when we have a parting of the ways with a member, we choose not to respond as we'd rather not appear to be bashing anyone. obviously we have the upper hand as we can delete and edit anything that gets posted here. so for us to go toe to toe with members in most cases just makes us look bad... So in the end we just close or delete it so the site and our members don't have to deal with the drama that comes with being a site this big. Some sites hang out the dirty laundry for all to see... we'd rather not do that. We'd rather keep the drama to a minimum so the majority of our members can just enjoy the site and be a part of the community. I'm not going to comment on Scotty. He and I do not get along nor do we see eye to eye. So it would not be fair for me in particular to comment. I'm biased. But we did not force him to leave. And he is welcome back should he choose to come back. But like any member he has to play by the same rules as anyone else. As I said earlier..... We prefer to keep the bickering and controversial stuff off our boards. Even if it makes us look bad at times. For now it seems to be working.... I don't see us changing the way this site is run any time soon. And no, I won't close the thread, nor will anyone else, until it becomes disrespectful or argumentative. FWIW. __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

06-04-2010, 03:27 PM	#11
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,366	I'd like to add a further note on CamaroScotty. He claimed that because of the new sponsorship rules, and since his boss says they cannot afford the fees, he would not be able to answer questions and left before he received a permanent ban for violating sponsorship rules. For the record, CamaroScotty is always completely welcome to stick around as an enthusiast just like 99% of the members. But he cannot stay to sell cars, unless he becomes a site sponsor like every other vendor on the site. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

06-04-2010, 04:26 PM	#13
masterofpuppets Pulling your strings Drives: My girlfriend crazy with car talk Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,246	As a former moderator of a different forum (and a large gaming one no less, which is worse then car forums), it's ALWAYS better to close/lock before something gets out of hand. And this is the internet.....it'll always get out of hand. The mods here do a pretty damn good job of A)keeping it in order and B)keeping things where they belong and keeping the forum uncluttered. __________________

06-04-2010, 10:21 AM	#2
WadeWilson How U Doin? Drives: 2014 CTS-V Coupe Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Californication Posts: 24,154 View My Garage	IBTL...no comment

06-04-2010, 01:59 PM	#6
hollywoodGU Drives: 1999 Firebird Formula Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Monmouth, OR Posts: 656 View My Garage	This just proves my point, people dont even know Scotty is gone because the thread was deleted AND justt because something could go ad its locked? Mustang vs camaro threads go bad 75% of the time but i dont see those getting locked anytime one pops up. That global warming thread was obviously light hearted and no one was getting upset

06-04-2010, 04:16 PM	#12
CamaroScotty Account Suspended Drives: Your new SLP Camaro! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cedarburg, WI Posts: 6,790	The mods are correct for the most part above - I really can't be here to help, as some of the questions may work themselves into "business" communications, which I can't have being a non-sponsor. C5 has chosen a paid sponsorship program, fair enough. I have sponsored other sites prior to their invite, and I just can't do more and more. Had it started much earlier when I inquired about it, that may have been different. It it may change in the future. Yes there are MANY people I respect here (including some MODS), and yes GTAHVIT and I tend not to get along. Perhaps if he met me in person rather than reading the text I type, he might get a different impression - but I won't hold that against him Don't think of me as gone....think of me as "transparent". I'm easy to find so no one's abandoned....Hopefully this clears up some of the questions so no drama needs to unfold. No need to blame anyone or anything - so for me, let it rest. Go in your Camaro, grab the Sammy Hager CD, play "I can't drive 55"....that's how life SHOULD be lived! Thanks guys & C5.

06-04-2010, 04:42 PM	#14
skuttduck Drives: 2010 RJT 2LT Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: East Lansing, MI Posts: 2,529	I can tell you I've quietly left a forum for real petty stuff. I really hope things don't get to the point where you can't say things like "damn" or "sucks" In the one case I wrote, I can't keep these corals worth a dämn and had someone edit it. Saying sucks? There are many legit reasons to say "sucks" such as "I need to get my air hose to suck more air" Yet that word was censored. One of the pet stores who sponsored the forum was called "Moby Dicks" and I am sure you can guess the word that was censored in that. You couldn't even talk about the name of the sponsor without your post being edited. It seemed those that got to be a mod on that board were looking for a reason to ban. I've seen the mods doing a pretty good job. I also noticed that they don't seem to do double standards. There was once a thread someone started about complaining that Camaro scotty was banned. I am not sure of the circumstances, nor do I need to know. What it did show me was that people weren't getting special treatment. I also noticed that a question was asked, and us members can talk about vendors who are not sponsors. So I think that is good. We can suggest to a member that they go to Newman Chevrolet, and I don't think that violates any rules. I've also looked at history of the persons posts when I see account suspended to see what exactly they were suspended for. I really haven't come across any that I think were petty.