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Old 08-03-2010, 02:45 PM   #57
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I very much disagree on the rental fleet interior comment especially in R/T and SRT guise. As for guages, besides the tach/speedo/fuel guages, most are just overcomplicated idiot lights in the way they work these days anyways so WHY would you want to make it more overwrought and complicated? there is a LOT to be said about a clean well laid out and simple design and the fact they use pretty damned good materials in the CHallenger is just the icing on the cake. As for the 3.5, agreed, that is why it is getting ditched for the new Pentastar V6 next year.
And the V6 is being rated at 300 HP next year too.
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Old 08-03-2010, 02:47 PM   #58
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And the V6 is being rated at 300 HP next year too.
My dealer said 290. [?]
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Old 08-03-2010, 02:49 PM   #59
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And the V6 is being rated at 300 HP next year too.
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My dealer said 290. [?]
Meh, close enough
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Old 08-03-2010, 02:54 PM   #60
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i like the interior. Materials look like they are just like the ones on the 2011 grand cherokee....8 speed transmission will be a plus. I like the smoked aluminum on the dash.....but is it just me or does the interior layout look like a 2004 bonneville
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Old 08-03-2010, 02:55 PM   #61
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Meh, close enough
290 is the same as 300?
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Old 08-03-2010, 03:42 PM   #62
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I like the old interior better. It has more of a visual flow it to. The materials appear to be better though in this one. The new design looks odd. A giant chunk of silver plastic and alot of black plastic. Random placement with some of the buttons. It has some 4th generation toyota supra interior influences.
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Old 08-03-2010, 04:08 PM   #63
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290 is the same as 300?
Well, both are estimates so I wouldn't trust either one. And its only 10 hp, its not going to make that much of a difference on a nearly 4000 lb car.
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Old 08-03-2010, 04:20 PM   #64
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It's 290 as certified for the Jeep, but it wouldn't be surprising at all if it gets recertified (like the Camaro).
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Old 08-03-2010, 04:30 PM   #65
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Well, both are estimates so I wouldn't trust either one. And its only 10 hp, its not going to make that much of a difference on a nearly 4000 lb car.
The V6's weigh just about the same as the V6 Camaro, in the 3600-3700lb range.

The V8's are the heavier ones due to the heavier suspension and the cast iron Hemi's.
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Old 08-03-2010, 05:24 PM   #66
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Now they just need to make the Challenger interior DIFFERENT from this one and I'll be impressed. This one looks nice, but sharing interiors between cars is awfully tacky imo, especially when the Chally is supposed to be a different beast
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Old 08-03-2010, 05:56 PM   #67
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Now they just need to make the Challenger interior DIFFERENT from this one and I'll be impressed. This one looks nice, but sharing interiors between cars is awfully tacky imo, especially when the Chally is supposed to be a different beast
Well, if the Challenger keeps its interior and the Charger changes ... mission accomplished.
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Old 08-03-2010, 07:53 PM   #68
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Well, both are estimates so I wouldn't trust either one. And its only 10 hp, its not going to make that much of a difference on a nearly 4000 lb car.
Yep, only estimates so far... the latest "insiders" estimates are "290 min, up to 300 in MY 2011"... then "over 300 in the following MYs (2012 or 2013)"... then the turbo versions are to come on line in MY2014.

Early estimates were in the 280 range...

Here is a link with info on the new Pentastar DOHC V6s...

http://www.allpar.com/mopar/phoenix-engines.html

Note that they were formerly called "Phoenix" series engines.

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Looks minivan-ish. The coffee cups are a nice touch. Needs a hula girl too.
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