Dropping Performance Models?

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by manimsoblack

I though CAFE mpgs were diff from EPA mpgs

Bingo.

That's the loophole within CAFE...EPA numbers have been updated...CAFE numbers haven't.

[iupui1299]

Don't worry once the flux capacitor is installed the camaro will be safe for generations

[Brokinarrow]

Originally Posted by MilotiNY

i read that article too when it came out. no worries. that's reporters opinion and nothing else. with the car in such demand, camaro will be around for a long time. do you think GM is stupid to cancel a car so hot and that people want to buy? no way.
they will surely look for better mpg.

Uh, not to mention, they just spent a ton of money to get the factory prepped to build these things. They at least need to break even on that before they'd even THINK about axeing the Camaro... and that would be like setting fire to a Money Tree just because the neighbors don't like it

[Brokinarrow]

Originally Posted by SSCamaroNC

I think what they ment by the V8 Camaro vanishing. is the new emissions plan that the president is hoping to set starting in 2012. where cars have to get 35 and trucks 27 I think.

see, this is why i hate the media, they contort everything! So, not your fault for getting this wrong; The new emissions plan states that the COMPANY AVERAGE of cars should be 35 mpg (or whatever it was, dont remember exact numbers) and trucks 27. Meaning, if they have a car that gets less, others need to make more to balance it out.

[clove503]

Well GM is shutting down the factory for 9 weeks, I believe, starting next month.

[wullger]

Originally Posted by clove503

Well GM is shutting down the factory for 9 weeks, I believe, starting next month.

s here! They are NOT. The camaro line is down for ONE week only.

[Black5thgen]

The Camaro is the only coupe other than the Cobalt in the whole GM line. It's marketed great and grabs ex-monte carlo owners as well. I could see a strict limit on V8 Camaro's for the next few years but when they become profitable again and the economy is fixed the H.O. Camaro's will again be kicking butt. I think GM got this car right on all aspects and it should survive.

[Brokinarrow]

Originally Posted by wullger

s here! They are NOT. The camaro line is down for ONE week only.

Its only doing that with US and Mexico plants. The Camaro plant is in Canada

[BigRigMike]

Originally Posted by Crowley

What was the 5 discontinued high-performance models it laready announced?

Crowley

Just going from memory I think they were.

1. Impala SS - This makes sense since the Monte SS and Grand Prix GXP are gone.
2. Cobalt SS Sedan I think coupe stays until Cobalt is replaced.
3. G6 GXP - Not surprising since Pontiac is going away but I remember autoblog had an article about it.
4. ?
5. ?

I will have to do more looking for the last two.

[GTAwheelman]

Originally Posted by Brokinarrow

see, this is why i hate the media, they contort everything! So, not your fault for getting this wrong; The new emissions plan states that the COMPANY AVERAGE of cars should be 35 mpg (or whatever it was, dont remember exact numbers) and trucks 27. Meaning, if they have a car that gets less, others need to make more to balance it out.

i had to argue with guys at work about this. i kept telling them that not every car had to meet the damn numbers. they still didnt get it.

[djinva]

Originally Posted by BigRigMike

Just going from memory I think they were.

1. Impala SS - This makes sense since the Monte SS and Grand Prix GXP are gone.
2. Cobalt SS Sedan I think coupe stays until Cobalt is replaced.
3. G6 GXP - Not surprising since Pontiac is going away but I remember autoblog had an article about it.
4. ?
5. ?

I will have to do more looking for the last two.

CTS-V
HHR SS

[songsj]

Many, many good points here on this thread. My thoughts are we are still sailing in uncharted water here and anything could happen. Some of you talk like the new Camaro is GM's savior and a very profitable car. Guys we are the minority die hard fans. 15,000 pre-orders is okay but nothing to get all excited about. We'll have to see when more of these hit the road if seeing the car spurs more sales from new buyers. That is what it will take to keep this baby alive. Remember GM killed the F-Body with sales of around 75,000 per year so this ones got a ways to go. And at some point early demand will be satisfied and they will no longer be able to get MSRP for these. They may even have to offer some incentives which cuts into profitability. TIme will tell.

[mikel441]

Originally Posted by N6504X

Originally quoted by MilotiNY:
do you think GM is stupid to cancel a car so hot and that people want to buy? no way.

GM failed to retain the Oldsmobile Alero as a Chevrolet when they canned the entire division in 2002, despite the fact that they were selling like hotcakes in the post 9/11 economy. I thought that was a big mistake....

I read a local article while on vacation in San Francisco in April, that was also one columnist's opinion, which stated that the Camaro would be the "death nail" of GM, that it symbolized everything that is wrong with GM. He went on to make the SS car out to be a sin, that it was even being produced....

I totally disagree with that. I believe history repeats itself. I believe GM needs to look to its past, and design and build cars based on two main goals:

1) build cars people want to own
2) build cars people will buy


In other words: Make them desirable and affordable! That's the Camaro!!

Who is this reporter? I would like to drag him behind my new SS when it arrives.

[mikel441]

Originally Posted by Camaroyoung

I think the government would love to get rid of all V8's even if they sell like "hot cakes". Bet on it. I plan on keeping my 2SS for a very long time.

They can have my V8 when they pry the car keys from my cold dead hand!!