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chadrcr · 08-29-2008, 11:07 PM

At least 'yall' have grass, most of the year I only had sand and rocks in the 'yard'...... I was gone on deployment for a few weeks.... now I got weeds that would scare the wildest animals in the jungle.... they scare me, I dont want to even go in the back yard.

There is ZERO chance of a hurricane here in NV, but we did have a tornado watch a couple months ago... nothing like back in Texas, where I have actually watched several tornados over the years. :flag2:

*TAG UR IT* · 08-30-2008, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MerF

That being said, if you're willing to ignore the professionals and want to try to ride it out and get screwed for your decision, DON'T BLAME SOCIETY. That's my only issue and I look forward to shaking my head at the failure of our country when people expect everyone to bend over backwards to help the folks who only stayed for the free support.

Hmm....we DO think alike.

I don't want this to get away from us...I just remember watching the news video of the lady going nuts on camera saying the government OWED her. Are you kidding me?!?! Those people make me SICK. No one owes you ANYTHING. Buy hurricane INS if you think your home could get hit. Don't want it? Then don't complain when a level 5 hurricane rips your wooden and brick home to splinters and rubble. Either that, or MOVE.

Even w/ the weather channel airing the "It Could Happen" video in April of 05...only 3 months before Katrina hit....people STILL didn't listen.

I really don't want a hurricane to hit anyone....really. But, if it does, and if those in it's path don't get out of the way, i say NO excuses....I have no pity for you. You've seen what can happen. Every evacuation method has been planned out. Follow it and you will survive....and get fed....and have shelter....and be safe.....

*GTAHVIT* · 08-30-2008, 11:47 PM

Wow.

Category 3 this afternoon. Not looking good for the home team. Katrina was a Cat 2...

chadrcr · 08-30-2008, 11:54 PM

CAT IV when sitting on Cuba... how did they do? no news of injuries etc...
It is predicted to be a V after Cuba (in the deep warm water) bad news...

*GTAHVIT* · 08-31-2008, 12:07 AM

I thought when it hit N.O. (landfall) it was a Cat 2?

Correction, Just checked NOAA, Landfall as a CAT 3.

http://www.katrina.noaa.gov/

I think you are right in that it was a CAT 5 at one time.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 08-31-2008, 02:11 AM

I've had the "pleasure" of doing extensive research on the Katrina disaster in school....

She was a Category 5 in the gulf, and it hit New Orleans as a Category 3. The majority of the structures the city were designed to handle a Category 3 Hurricane -- however, they were poorly maintained over the years. Consequently, the levees broke when the storm surge from lake Pontchartrain hit AFTER the Hurricane passed over. (It's a common misconception that the Hurricane itself actually destroyed the city) This resulted in a 80% total flooding and loss of the city.

Why? Because 80% of the city is BELOW sea level! The damage was estimated at approximately $200 BILLION, and the gov't has only allocated about half of that amount for a rebuild effort, 3 years later...

We held a debate in class over what the residents should do. Come back? Stay? Get out? I said that they should get out, and set up shop somewhere else. Take the allocated money and begin to build a new city somewhere...because eventually; this natural disaster is going to happen again, but worse. And any money we pour into the rebuilding of the city will be wasted in an utter destruction again. Moreover; why subject yourself to the same emotional pain and anguish that Katrina caused, again? It just made no sense to me to stay...and it seems that we're seeing why right now........

chadrcr · 08-31-2008, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye

I've had the "pleasure" of doing extensive research on the Katrina disaster in school....

She was a Category 5 in the gulf, and it hit New Orleans as a Category 3. The majority of the structures the city were designed to handle a Category 3 Hurricane -- however, they were poorly maintained over the years. Consequently, the levees broke when the storm surge from lake Pontchartrain hit AFTER the Hurricane passed over. (It's a common misconception that the Hurricane itself actually destroyed the city) This resulted in a 80% total flooding and loss of the city.

Why? Because 80% of the city is BELOW sea level! The damage was estimated at approximately $200 BILLION, and the gov't has only allocated about half of that amount for a rebuild effort, 3 years later...

We held a debate in class over what the residents should do. Come back? Stay? Get out? I said that they should get out, and set up shop somewhere else. Take the allocated money and begin to build a new city somewhere...because eventually; this natural disaster is going to happen again, but worse. And any money we pour into the rebuilding of the city will be wasted in an utter destruction again. Moreover; why subject yourself to the same emotional pain and anguish that Katrina caused, again? It just made no sense to me to stay...and it seems that we're seeing why right now........

Nostradamoderator...

CatiaJockey · 08-31-2008, 09:14 AM

Dragoneye, in your research did you study outside of New Orleans? Most don't realize the amount of destruction east of New Orleans.
Did your class consider the fact that New Orleans was based on being a port city? If they were to move, where along the Mississippi river would be safe from floods and provide a convient port for shipping? No matter what the disaster I think people are going to go back to their home. I've been through many many hurricanes and I still will not live any other place than the Gulf Coast. Every where you go there is the possibility for disaster of some sort, I'll take hurricanes over earthquakes and tornados any day.

Mr Twisty · 08-31-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye

We held a debate in class over what the residents should do. Come back? Stay? Get out? I said that they should get out, and set up shop somewhere else. Take the allocated money and begin to build a new city somewhere...because eventually; this natural disaster is going to happen again, but worse. And any money we pour into the rebuilding of the city will be wasted in an utter destruction again. Moreover; why subject yourself to the same emotional pain and anguish that Katrina caused, again? It just made no sense to me to stay...and it seems that we're seeing why right now........

Yup. If a wise man builds his house on a rock, and a fool builds his house on sand, and the storm comes and washes the home built on sand away, THEN the fool rebuilds in the same spot...What is he then?
Don't hate on me, that's from the Bible, except for the rebuild part. New Orleans, it's time to fight, f#@* or run, I'd run.

Mr Twisty · 08-31-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CatiaJockey

Dragoneye, in your research did you study outside of New Orleans? Most don't realize the amount of destruction east of New Orleans.
Did your class consider the fact that New Orleans was based on being a port city? If they were to move, where along the Mississippi river would be safe from floods and provide a convient port for shipping? No matter what the disaster I think people are going to go back to their home. I've been through many many hurricanes and I still will not live any other place than the Gulf Coast. Every where you go there is the possibility for disaster of some sort, I'll take hurricanes over earthquakes and tornados any day.

Katrina's eye actually hit well east of Nawlins, at least the Mississippi-ans have land above sea level to rebuild on. A natural disaster can strike anywhere in the world, Nawlins wasn't devastated by a hurricane, it was devastated by a bad decision to build a city below sea-level on the gulf coast.

MerF · 08-31-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

Katrina's eye actually hit well east of Nawlins, at least the Mississippi-ans have land above sea level to rebuild on. A natural disaster can strike anywhere in the world, Nawlins wasn't devastated by a hurricane, it was devastated by a bad decision to build a city below sea-level on the gulf coast.

And to add further on that, it was really destroyed by poor local government managing the levees and emergency protocols.

Vash · 08-31-2008, 11:59 PM

I was watching the NO WDSU live stream.

One of the local weatherman was so stupid. He was showing radar and was saying the wall was only half formed for some reason. Uh he didn't realise there is no ground doppler like that on his feed. He was like "look there does not seem to be an eye wall on the other side". That's because it was out of radar range but it was there in Sat views.

Mr Twisty · 09-01-2008, 12:19 AM

Lotsa Louisiana license plates in Alabama tonite. Got caught smack dab in the middle of evacuation. At least they're running this time. God have mercy on you gulf dwellers.

FenwickHockey65 · 09-01-2008, 12:54 AM

I heard that OnStar's been swamped by the folks evacuating. 75,000 users or something like that.

08-29-2008, 11:07 PM	#15
chadrcr to Z or not to Z Drives: 99 S10 ZR2 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Fallon NV Posts: 722 View My Garage	At least 'yall' have grass, most of the year I only had sand and rocks in the 'yard'...... I was gone on deployment for a few weeks.... now I got weeds that would scare the wildest animals in the jungle.... they scare me, I dont want to even go in the back yard. There is ZERO chance of a hurricane here in NV, but we did have a tornado watch a couple months ago... nothing like back in Texas, where I have actually watched several tornados over the years. :flag2: __________________ 99 S-10 ZR2 06 GMC Z71 - - - sold... getting ready for my Camaro 02 Z28 - - - sold :( miss it!

08-30-2008, 11:47 PM	#17
GTAHVIT Blessed Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,441 View My Garage	Wow. Category 3 this afternoon. Not looking good for the home team. Katrina was a Cat 2... __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

08-30-2008, 11:54 PM	#18
chadrcr to Z or not to Z Drives: 99 S10 ZR2 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Fallon NV Posts: 722 View My Garage	CAT IV when sitting on Cuba... how did they do? no news of injuries etc... It is predicted to be a V after Cuba (in the deep warm water) bad news... __________________ 99 S-10 ZR2 06 GMC Z71 - - - sold... getting ready for my Camaro 02 Z28 - - - sold :( miss it!

08-31-2008, 12:07 AM	#19
GTAHVIT Blessed Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,441 View My Garage	I thought when it hit N.O. (landfall) it was a Cat 2? Correction, Just checked NOAA, Landfall as a CAT 3. http://www.katrina.noaa.gov/ I think you are right in that it was a CAT 5 at one time. __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

08-31-2008, 02:11 AM	#20
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,873 View My Garage	I've had the "pleasure" of doing extensive research on the Katrina disaster in school.... She was a Category 5 in the gulf, and it hit New Orleans as a Category 3. The majority of the structures the city were designed to handle a Category 3 Hurricane -- however, they were poorly maintained over the years. Consequently, the levees broke when the storm surge from lake Pontchartrain hit AFTER the Hurricane passed over. (It's a common misconception that the Hurricane itself actually destroyed the city) This resulted in a 80% total flooding and loss of the city. Why? Because 80% of the city is BELOW sea level! The damage was estimated at approximately $200 BILLION, and the gov't has only allocated about half of that amount for a rebuild effort, 3 years later... We held a debate in class over what the residents should do. Come back? Stay? Get out? I said that they should get out, and set up shop somewhere else. Take the allocated money and begin to build a new city somewhere...because eventually; this natural disaster is going to happen again, but worse. And any money we pour into the rebuilding of the city will be wasted in an utter destruction again. Moreover; why subject yourself to the same emotional pain and anguish that Katrina caused, again? It just made no sense to me to stay...and it seems that we're seeing why right now........ __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

08-31-2008, 09:14 AM	#22
CatiaJockey Drives: 2010 2LT RS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ocean Springs, Ms Posts: 2,799 View My Garage	Dragoneye, in your research did you study outside of New Orleans? Most don't realize the amount of destruction east of New Orleans. Did your class consider the fact that New Orleans was based on being a port city? If they were to move, where along the Mississippi river would be safe from floods and provide a convient port for shipping? No matter what the disaster I think people are going to go back to their home. I've been through many many hurricanes and I still will not live any other place than the Gulf Coast. Every where you go there is the possibility for disaster of some sort, I'll take hurricanes over earthquakes and tornados any day. __________________

08-31-2008, 11:59 PM	#26
Vash Drives: 00 Blazer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 5,100	I was watching the NO WDSU live stream. One of the local weatherman was so stupid. He was showing radar and was saying the wall was only half formed for some reason. Uh he didn't realise there is no ground doppler like that on his feed. He was like "look there does not seem to be an eye wall on the other side". That's because it was out of radar range but it was there in Sat views.

09-01-2008, 12:19 AM	#27
Mr Twisty Drives: the 2nd amendment home Join Date: May 2008 Location: OK Posts: 14,763	Lotsa Louisiana license plates in Alabama tonite. Got caught smack dab in the middle of evacuation. At least they're running this time. God have mercy on you gulf dwellers. __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin lib·er·ty /ˈlibərdē/ noun 1. the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behavior, or political views

09-01-2008, 12:54 AM	#28
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2023 Expedition Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,375 View My Garage	I heard that OnStar's been swamped by the folks evacuating. 75,000 users or something like that. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2023 Ford Expedition SSV (State-Issued)