2015 Mustang to gain 200-300 pounds?

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by Q'smuscle

Thanx ! I thought so! But I was hoping there was some insight on the 6th Gen!

Well....there is insight right? I mean he did say it was shrinking, so for the movie version, they made it bigger. That tells me the 6th gen will be smaller.

[BaylorCamaro]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Well....there is insight right? I mean he did say it was shrinking, so for the movie version, they made it bigger. That tells me the 6th gen will be smaller.

[Q'smuscle]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Well....there is insight right? I mean he did say it was shrinking, so for the movie version, they made it bigger. That tells me the 6th gen will be smaller.

True! which we all thought !

Originally Posted by 87GNX

For the 6th gen? Smaller and lighter.

But wider?

[VADER SS L99]

There are still some fanboys in denial who think the Mustang didn't and isn't gaining any weight. They think those leaked weights are for fully optioned models.

[archtaan]

Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

There are still some fanboys in denial who think the Mustang didn't and isn't gaining any weight. They think those leaked weights are for fully optioned models.

Even though it clearly states "base weight" I still say a GT Premium with glass roof & upgraded sound system will push close 3900#s.

[big hammer]

even the mustang crew over there is calling the pill retarded.

and he thinks the new Camaro is going to gain weight because the mustang did

a lot of the reasons the mustang gained weight is because of IRS and safety regulations. things the current Camaro already has. the mustang gt premium will be around the same weight as the Camaro.

it would be cool if on the last year of the 5th gen, they threw an lt1 in it.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by big hammer

even the mustang crew over there is calling the pill retarded.

and he thinks the new Camaro is going to gain weight because the mustang did

a lot of the reasons the mustang gained weight is because of IRS and safety regulations. things the current Camaro already has. the mustang gt premium will be around the same weight as the Camaro.

it would be cool if on the last year of the 5th gen, they threw an lt1 in it.

It's funny to read the threads over there. They are all banking on the Camaro sharing the LWB Alpha platform with the CTS so it will weigh more. If the 2016 SS weighs close to the 2015 GT, it will have a considerable torque, and most likely slight horsepower advantage. All it takes is for GM to make wise decisions with the 6th gen and it should be a very good car.

[MEDISIN]

I don't think the slight weight gain is going to impact Mustang performance. Even if they don't do anything with the 5.0, it's going to be an improved overall car. The one piece Ford has been missing is a suitable chassis, everything else is already there. I suspect people will be pleasantly surprised at track performance. Team Camaro is going to really have to do its homework for gen 6, weight savings or not.

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by MEDISIN

I don't think the slight weight gain is going to impact Mustang performance. Even if they don't do anything with the 5.0, it's going to be an improved overall car. The one piece Ford has been missing is a suitable chassis, everything else is already there. I suspect people will be pleasantly surprised at track performance. Team Camaro is going to really have to do its homework for gen 6, weight savings or not.

I agree that the Mustang should be a fantastic car. No doubt. I just don't care for the look. Its not bad...not great. I'm sure modded ones will look pretty mean, but when I first saw the Camaro it blew me away completely. The Mustang doesn't do that for me at all. MustangG6 site has up shots of the the red Mustang with white stripes used as a pace car. I think it looks almost boring. Sorry. Just my opinion. Maybe its those wheels on that pace car...they are my least favorite ones.

But GM has a lot going for it already. In my opinion the Alpha chassis and engine choices they have are slamdunks already. Just got to get the size, weight, and look right.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by MEDISIN

I don't think the slight weight gain is going to impact Mustang performance. Even if they don't do anything with the 5.0, it's going to be an improved overall car. The one piece Ford has been missing is a suitable chassis, everything else is already there. I suspect people will be pleasantly surprised at track performance. Team Camaro is going to really have to do its homework for gen 6, weight savings or not.

I have no doubt it will be a great performing car but the reason the last gen performs so well against the current Camaro has a lot do with the weight advantage. It will have little to no weight advantage if GM doesn't try to make the 6th gen Camaro an ATS with a bowtie.

[big hammer]

GM has the chassis and the means to build a 3600 pound Camaro, but it depends on which buyer demographic they're going after.

they can easily make the 6th gen outperform the mustang without getting to close to the performance of the vette.

[khell86]

The alpha chassis is a great chassis, but I think the main reason its doing such a great job in regards to handling is the mag ride. Will that carry over to the 6th Gen camaro? If it does then yes, the new camaro will be amazing around the track.

I think the 6th gen will probably remain the same weight, based off of ATS weights and CTS weights. So the weight advantage will pretty much be gone for the mustang. I think in the end it'll come down to that mag ride.

[VADER SS L99]

Originally Posted by khell86

The alpha chassis is a great chassis, but I think the main reason its doing such a great job in regards to handling is the mag ride. Will that carry over to the 6th Gen camaro? If it does then yes, the new camaro will be amazing around the track.

I think the 6th gen will probably remain the same weight, based off of ATS weights and CTS weights. So the weight advantage will pretty much be gone for the mustang. I think in the end it'll come down to that mag ride.

The magnetic ride control is only available on the high end expensive ATS models. If they want to offer it for the 6th gen as a option great, but I don't want it coming on the car standard. That just adds more weight and cost that I don't want to pay.

The 6th gen is going to lose weight. Its going to happen. The only question is how much. If GM polled every 5th gen owner who knew anything about their car and asked them what would you change, one of the first responses would be weight. Same goes for all the magazine testers. If the 6th gen doesn't lose weight it will be a big epic fail.

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by MEDISIN

I don't think the slight weight gain is going to impact Mustang performance. Even if they don't do anything with the 5.0, it's going to be an improved overall car. The one piece Ford has been missing is a suitable chassis, everything else is already there. I suspect people will be pleasantly surprised at track performance. Team Camaro is going to really have to do its homework for gen 6, weight savings or not.

If the timing is still what is being speculated as a 2016, then the homework is done and the test is submitted. Car would be well over 80% done by now to be a 2016 and at this point you aren't taking out any more weight. Die would be as they say, already cast.

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

I have no doubt it will be a great performing car but the reason the last gen performs so well against the current Camaro has a lot do with the weight advantage. It will have little to no weight advantage if GM doesn't try to make the 6th gen Camaro an ATS with a bowtie.

Think of it this way. My new SS is about the same size and HP as a CTS V-Sport. It has a lot of bells and whistles that a Camaro doesn't have or didn't have at launch. The CTS V-sport is a far nicer car with a 4 year 50k warranty and a "would you like a loaner car with that oil change, SIR" every time. It can't be a Cadillac even if it is piled with features. As much as I love my SS it isn't a V-sport and it's well over $20,000 less for nearly the same performance. It's the upgrade in materials, service and experience that now make a Cadillac, not technology.