Z/28

[Z/284ever]

Al,

Do you still see a need for a product like the Z/28 in the Camaro line up in order to compete directly with the GT350/R?

[Battlezone580]

Why would we? The standard ZL1 is more impressive than the GT350R, and the ZL1 1LE made the GT350R look like a 4 cylinder around the track.

I'm glad the Z/28 came back in 5th gen form, it was a beast of its time. However, I'm glad Chevy has decided to go with the ZL1 with the 1LE option for a buyer like my self. I can track my car, and drive it with all the luxuries such as A/C, Bose premium sound system, nice interior, ect.

As much as I would love to see a Z/28 in 6th gen form, I think it's unrealistic and pointless at this point. The ZL1 1LE will be hard enough to sell at 80k (with tax, etc.) a Z/28 in the 90k range... Not going to happen.

[Z/284ever]

Originally Posted by Battlezone580

Why would we? The standard ZL1 is more impressive than the GT350R, and the ZL1 1LE made the GT350R look like a 4 cylinder around the track.

I'm glad the Z/28 came back in 5th gen form, it was a beast of its time. However, I'm glad Chevy has decided to go with the ZL1 with the 1LE option for a buyer like my self. I can track my car, and drive it with all the luxuries such as A/C, Bose premium sound system, nice interior, ect.

As much as I would love to see a Z/28 in 6th gen form, I think it's unrealistic and pointless at this point. The ZL1 1LE will be hard enough to sell at 80k (with tax, etc.) a Z/28 in the 90k range... Not going to happen.

Are you Al? That's why I posted it in the "Ask Al" section.

[JLSuperfly]

Originally Posted by Z/284ever

Are you Al? That's why I posted it in the "Ask Al" section.

Haha. LOL.

[Z/284ever]

Originally Posted by JLSuperfly

Haha. LOL.

I know, right?

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Z/284ever

Are you Al? That's why I posted it in the "Ask Al" section.

You did, and he isn't - yet that doesn't exclude a little conversation and banter ahead of a question being included in the poll.

Let's play nice.

[Z/284ever]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

You did, and he isn't - yet that doesn't exclude a little conversation and banter ahead of a question being included in the poll.

Let's play nice.

Sounds good, I didn't realize that.

Originally Posted by Battlezone580

Why would we? The standard ZL1 is more impressive than the GT350R, and the ZL1 1LE made the GT350R look like a 4 cylinder around the track.

I'm glad the Z/28 came back in 5th gen form, it was a beast of its time. However, I'm glad Chevy has decided to go with the ZL1 with the 1LE option for a buyer like my self. I can track my car, and drive it with all the luxuries such as A/C, Bose premium sound system, nice interior, ect.

As much as I would love to see a Z/28 in 6th gen form, I think it's unrealistic and pointless at this point. The ZL1 1LE will be hard enough to sell at 80k (with tax, etc.) a Z/28 in the 90k range... Not going to happen.

Well, let me say that a $90K Z/28 is a non starter with me. If it's purpose is to compete with a GT350/R, pricing it $30,000 more than it's competitor would be foolish.

The ZL1 1LE is a track animal, but does it fulfill the Z/28 legacy? You could certainly do 10 threads just on that topic. The SS 1LE is probably the closest thing to the original Z/28 formula in the line up right now. Also keep in mind that Ford developed a super expensive FPC motor for the GT350 and priced it in the $50's. A "hot cammed" LT1 could be developed for peanuts in comparison.

Call me old fashioned, but I just think a normally aspirated, free revving smallblock is a spiritual experience and is what should power a Z/28. Imagine not needing a couple hundred pounds of coolers and ancillaries to support a supercharger. It would be a different driving experience, on the road and on the track.

Be true to the Z/28 lineage, push those emotional car buttons that so many of us have, price it in the $57-$65K range like it's direct competitors and even if it wouldn't match a monster ZL1 1LE around the 'ring, who cares. But I'd betcha it'd be a driver's race.

[aa406079]

Originally Posted by Battlezone580

Why would we? The standard ZL1 is more impressive than the GT350R, and the ZL1 1LE made the GT350R look like a 4 cylinder around the track.

I'm glad the Z/28 came back in 5th gen form, it was a beast of its time. However, I'm glad Chevy has decided to go with the ZL1 with the 1LE option for a buyer like my self. I can track my car, and drive it with all the luxuries such as A/C, Bose premium sound system, nice interior, ect.

As much as I would love to see a Z/28 in 6th gen form, I think it's unrealistic and pointless at this point. The ZL1 1LE will be hard enough to sell at 80k (with tax, etc.) a Z/28 in the 90k range... Not going to happen.

Guess that why Porsche doesnt sell GT3's and GT4's anymore huh?

Z28 will be back... with the new C8 DOHC motor....

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by Z/284ever

Sounds good, I didn't realize that.



Well, let me say that a $90K Z/28 is a non starter with me. If it's purpose is to compete with a GT350/R, pricing it $30,000 more than it's competitor would be foolish.

The ZL1 1LE is a track animal, but does it fulfill the Z/28 legacy? You could certainly do 10 threads just on that topic. The SS 1LE is probably the closest thing to the original Z/28 formula in the line up right now. Also keep in mind that Ford developed a super expensive FPC motor for the GT350 and priced it in the $50's. A "hot cammed" LT1 could be developed for peanuts in comparison.

Call me old fashioned, but I just think a normally aspirated, free revving smallblock is a spiritual experience and is what should power a Z/28. Imagine not needing a couple hundred pounds of coolers and ancillaries to support a supercharger. It would be a different driving experience, on the road and on the track.

Be true to the Z/28 lineage, push those emotional car buttons that so many of us have, price it in the $57-$65K range like it's direct competitors and even if it wouldn't match a monster ZL1 1LE around the 'ring, who cares. But I'd betcha it'd be a driver's race.

and allow it to be optioned up to extreme track like the GS Z07 so that the base Z/28 is more accessible.

[brantley847]

Originally Posted by aa406079

Guess that why Porsche doesnt sell GT3's and GT4's anymore huh?

Z28 will be back... with the new C8 DOHC motor....

Uhh ... right. Apples to oranges. The base carrera sells for over 90 with less performance than our SS so would we pay 80 for that? There's thousands and thousands of consumers willing to pay over 150 for a 911 GT3, the same cannot be said for the Z28 at 80-90. If you don't believe that just ask the dealers who had allocation and some who had them sit on lots. I'm also probably looking at the next gen C8 Z06 at that price point (assuming both release within a close time window)

[genxer]

Originally Posted by Z/284ever

Sounds good, I didn't realize that.



Well, let me say that a $90K Z/28 is a non starter with me. If it's purpose is to compete with a GT350/R, pricing it $30,000 more than it's competitor would be foolish.

The ZL1 1LE is a track animal, but does it fulfill the Z/28 legacy? You could certainly do 10 threads just on that topic. The SS 1LE is probably the closest thing to the original Z/28 formula in the line up right now. Also keep in mind that Ford developed a super expensive FPC motor for the GT350 and priced it in the $50's. A "hot cammed" LT1 could be developed for peanuts in comparison.

Call me old fashioned, but I just think a normally aspirated, free revving smallblock is a spiritual experience and is what should power a Z/28. Imagine not needing a couple hundred pounds of coolers and ancillaries to support a supercharger. It would be a different driving experience, on the road and on the track.

Be true to the Z/28 lineage, push those emotional car buttons that so many of us have, price it in the $57-$65K range like it's direct competitors and even if it wouldn't match a monster ZL1 1LE around the 'ring, who cares. But I'd betcha it'd be a driver's race.

Would you like to see a Z/28 usurp the SS 1LE in the lineup? I know a bunch of guys that have done a cam/headers/tune to these pushrod V8s on their own. How different does a factory Z/28 need to be? Personally, I like the idea of the 14-15s being very raw, luxury-delete cars. Is the pony car rivalry in a place where the ZL1 1LE is too much and the most successful (selling) car will be the less gaudy one that backs off the genital measuring contest? Also, the original 67-68 Z/28 had the 302 whereas a true modern 302 would be compared to the V6.

I'm just asking trying to further the thoughts and discussion here.