No shade to the v6 owner's, but let's keep it real!!

[Iron Lung Jimmy]

Originally Posted by motorhead

Only page six here.

You need to get off the metric system.

[ZED SLED]

Originally Posted by Iron Lung Jimmy

You need to get off the metric system.

The forum default system gives some of us carpel tunnel

[redcoats1976]

Originally Posted by gajagfan

and I know i am going to catch a lot of hell for my response. If I were not getting the most handling and performance that I could afford / justify, I would select the Cruze. Now notice how I said that. I would purchase the Cruze over a non-1LE Camaro, but that's just me. I have no problem and respect anyone who would rather have whatever over the Cruze. So, which is better depends on the priorities of the guy holding the wheel.

at last,somebody who gets it...

[Baba]

Originally Posted by gajagfan

and I know i am going to catch a lot of hell for my response. If I were not getting the most handling and performance that I could afford / justify, I would select the Cruze. Now notice how I said that. I would purchase the Cruze over a non-1LE Camaro, but that's just me. I have no problem and respect anyone who would rather have whatever over the Cruze. So, which is better depends on the priorities of the guy holding the wheel.

Thanks for recognizing the point I was conveying in my post. It's purely subjective as to what an individual believes is good, or not, or what one can afford or values. Unfortunately, (some) others weren’t as adept.

The problems with these threads is that you get (some) members drawing analogies of ranch homes, believing a 2k sq. ft. ranch home made of stone with solid wood cabinets is better than a 1.5k sq. ft. ranch house made of the same materials but has a pool in the backyard (instead of applying an analogy directly to the discussion of Camaros). It’s subjective. There is no “right” or “wrong” nor "good" or "bad".

Then you've got people who appear to place a higher value on a stripped down / base V6 Camaro rather than an upgraded Cruze with most, if not all, the bells & whistles. Once again, it’s subjective. No “right” or “wrong”, "good or "bad".

Most everything is subjective. There is only what suits the individual.

Yet (as unfortunate as it may seem to some), we are afforded the privilege of continually being granted insight to the views of those whose credo is "bigger is better". (Mind you, there is nothing wrong with “bigger is better”, in, and of, itself). Problem(s) arise, however, when people espousing these beliefs take it upon themselves to instruct others of the dim view they take on their choice(s) for owning something (seemingly) less than they have, value, or for believing in something different than they do, regardless of the reasoning or rationale(s) behind those choices.

Looking down on others’, whose inability to afford something or whose beliefs or values don’t coincide with theirs, is bad enough, but expressing those views publicly is a display of intolerance and even ignorance (that is “subjective”, of course. You may be the more “reserved” member of your clan). By "belittling" others' choices, you suffocate the opportunity for discussion.

There is an old saying: “What you think is one thing. What you say is another.” In other words, think your part but keep your mouth shut lest you want to put your ignorance on display.

Point made. Then proven.

V6 & V8 owners, coupe or convertible, with or without: sunroof, RS, stripes or hash marks, additional badging, nav., backup camera, catch can, custom paint job or after market anything; enjoy your Camaro and allow those with more or less to enjoy their 5th Gen., too (without shitting on them for having something other than yours, for whatever reason)!

[Mr. Stacy]

Leno's 420 HP V6 Camaro



Keeping it real.

[gajagfan]

Originally Posted by Baba

Thanks for recognizing the point I was conveying in my post. It's purely subjective as to what an individual believes is good, or not, or what one can afford or values. Unfortunately, (some) others weren’t as adept.

The problems with these threads is that you get (some) members drawing analogies of ranch homes, believing a 2k sq. ft. ranch home made of stone with solid wood cabinets is better than a 1.5k sq. ft. ranch house made of the same materials but has a pool in the backyard (instead of applying an analogy directly to the discussion of Camaros). It’s subjective. There is no “right” or “wrong” nor "good" or "bad".

Then you've got people who appear to place a higher value on a stripped down / base V6 Camaro rather than an upgraded Cruze with most, if not all, the bells & whistles. Once again, it’s subjective. No “right” or “wrong”, "good or "bad".

Most everything is subjective. There is only what suits the individual.

Yet (as unfortunate as it may seem to some), we are afforded the privilege of continually being granted insight to the views of those whose credo is "bigger is better". (Mind you, there is nothing wrong with “bigger is better”, in, and of, itself). Problem(s) arise, however, when people espousing these beliefs take it upon themselves to instruct others of the dim view they take on their choice(s) for owning something (seemingly) less than they have, value, or for believing in something different than they do, regardless of the reasoning or rationale(s) behind those choices.

Looking down on others’, whose inability to afford something or whose beliefs or values don’t coincide with theirs, is bad enough, but expressing those views publicly is a display of intolerance and even ignorance (that is “subjective”, of course. You may be the more “reserved” member of your clan). By "belittling" others' choices, you suffocate the opportunity for discussion.

There is an old saying: “What you think is one thing. What you say is another.” In other words, think your part but keep your mouth shut lest you want to put your ignorance on display.

Point made. Then proven.

V6 & V8 owners, coupe or convertible, with or without: sunroof, RS, stripes or hash marks, additional badging, nav., backup camera, catch can, custom paint job or after market anything; enjoy your Camaro and allow those with more or less to enjoy their 5th Gen., too (without shitting on them for having something other than yours, for whatever reason)!

We are all guilty of being judgmental. Often how we say things comes across that way, even if we don't mean it to. I am not sure who said this:

"However, unless you're tracking or street racing your 5th Gen. Coupe, you're not "upgrading to an SS" unless you're getting into a convertible (either an LT or an SS)."

Ha ha, of course I know who said it, but the point is that this statement can be seen as putting an SS down, though your intent (I believe) is to simply express how important a convertible is to you. Now the one thing we all agree on is the catch can, am I right? Have a great weekend folks!

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by Baba

Which do you think is better? The Camaro with cloth seats and base sound or a Cruze with leather and premium stereo?

The Camaro of course. Im not into econo boxes no matter how they try to dress them up. But that example is comparing apples and oranges as was yours.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by ZED SLED

The forum default system gives some of us carpel tunnel

[JLSuperfly]

Originally Posted by Baba

V6 & V8 owners, coupe or convertible, with or without: sunroof, RS, stripes or hash marks, additional badging, nav., backup camera, catch can, custom paint job or after market anything....

I am glad you did not forget the catch can.

[JLSuperfly]

Originally Posted by gajagfan

....Now the one thing we all agree on is the catch can, am I right? Have a great weekend folks!

You got it. It doesn't matter what car you drive. If your car doesn't have a catch can, your car sucks!

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by Baba

Thanks for recognizing the point I was conveying in my post. It's purely subjective as to what an individual believes is good, or not, or what one can afford or values. Unfortunately, (some) others weren’t as adept.

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]The problems with these threads is that you get (some) members drawing analogies of ranch homes, believing a 2k sq. ft. ranch home made of stone with solid wood cabinets is better than a 1.5k sq. ft. ranch house made of the same materials but has a pool in the backyard (instead of applying an analogy directly to the discussion of Camaros). It’s subjective. There is no “right” or “wrong” nor "good" or ]

Go look at real estate values sometime. Compare a home with a pool that is smaller with lower end materials to a larger one without a pool and high quality materials in a similar area.
It isn't my opinion or my toughts. It's a fact. The latter will be worth more. Pools can actually drop property values because that often cause insurance rates to increase and or looked at as a liability.

I know what you're saying about that some people don't look at V8s as an upgrade. That's just them trying to justify it in their own mind for whatever reason. Who cares what anyone drives? I don't, and I don't think any less or anymore of anyone that drives whatever, but going from a V6 camaro to a V8 is most certainly an upgrade. Just as going from an LS Camaro to an LT is.
The idea of someone deciding if any particular upgrade has any value to them personally is a personal choice. If they don't see the value in that upgrade, they don't buy it. That doesn't automatically make it not an upgrade.

This topic comes up about once a month with the results.

WGAF what anyone drives or doesn't drive or what the hell they call their choice to go from one to the other whatever. I came here to find out what shade meant and got suck in again.

[Iron Lung Jimmy]

Filled up this morning -

154 miles... 10.4 gallons... 14.8 mpg.

Or 6.3 km/liter for those of you still on page 6.

[Baba]

Originally Posted by motorhead

Go look at real estate values sometime. Compare a home with a pool that is smaller with lower end materials to a larger one without a pool and high quality materials in a similar area.
It isn't my opinion or my toughts. It's a fact. The latter will be worth more. Pools can actually drop property values because that often cause insurance rates to increase and or looked at as a liability.

I know what you're saying about that some people don't look at V8s as an upgrade. That's just them trying to justify it in their own mind for whatever reason. Who cares what anyone drives? I don't, and I don't think any less or anymore of anyone that drives whatever, but going from a V6 camaro to a V8 is most certainly an upgrade. Just as going from an LS Camaro to an LT is.
The idea of someone deciding if any particular upgrade has any value to them personally is a personal choice. If they don't see the value in that upgrade, they don't buy it. That doesn't automatically make it not an upgrade.

This topic comes up about once a month with the results.

WGAF what anyone drives or doesn't drive or what the hell they call their choice to go from one to the other whatever. I came here to find out what shade meant and got suck in again.

We're good. We're definitely good.

[fhrex]

Originally Posted by JLSuperfly

You got it. It doesn't matter what car you drive. If your car doesn't have a catch can, your car sucks!