Finally pulled the trigger on a V8...

kdu · 03-04-2016, 09:17 PM

This post is definitely a bit of a bait and switch. Spoiler... I didn't buy the SS. I've been reading this forum for a few months and was narrowing my choices down between a few cars including the 2SS, M2, M4 and the RC F. I got a chance to test drive the Camaro several times and frankly was extremely impressed (and still am). The car is really fantastic and a great value for the performance that you get.

However, In the end we decided that for the kind of money we were going to spend on a 2SS might as well go up to a luxury brand. The RC F won over the M2/M4 due to a better balance of every day drivability and comfort coupled with the promise of better overall service experience and reliability. My wife and I actually drove the RC F and the Camaro 2SS back to back before making the final decision.

The Camaro was more raw, louder and definitely felt more athletic. However, overall fit and finish, visibility (a problem for my wife in the Camaro) and general amenities went to the Lexus. Look forward to keeping tabs on this forum and maybe picking up a used SS in a few years as a dedicated track car. In the mean time, here is the new ride...

Rob13567 · 03-04-2016, 09:46 PM

Wow I actually like the rcf, interior especially but it has a lot of weight
Did you know if you say "cooler" on voice commands the AC will lower the temperature

GDAGR8 · 03-04-2016, 10:42 PM

Looks just as fun. I just test drove a 2ss a8 NPP mag ride today and oh my. Hails the mail for sure.

Techn9cian805 · 03-04-2016, 10:46 PM

Cant say much other than congrats, i guess. That, and sorry for your loss.

Seriously bro, u need a new wife. Lol

Jk.

buck_dawg_gold · 03-04-2016, 10:56 PM

Lexus is definitely a chick car. Congrats!!

kdu · 03-04-2016, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob13567

Wow I actually like the rcf, interior especially but it has a lot of weight
Did you know if you say "cooler" on voice commands the AC will lower the temperature

Did not know that and will give that a try!

Quote:

Originally Posted by buck_dawg_gold

Lexus is definitely a chick car. Congrats!!

I thought Lexus was an old people's car. I'm in my early 30s so either way not sure what it says about me...

Zeke.Malvo · 03-05-2016, 12:27 AM

Congrats. The car looks better than the pics you posted tho!

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doc7000 · 03-05-2016, 01:18 AM

You guys are being overly harsh on the guy lol......

I like the RCF, really makes for a great cruiser and has the V-8 engine sound to boot.... it certainly does the luxury stuff really well.

90503 · 03-05-2016, 01:19 AM

What were the prices for each car?....I always find it curious the Camaro price gets griped about as being high, but then buyers spend more for something else.

I thought the popular thing to do was to buy a POS Mustang for less money than a Camaro?

The Camaro just can't win, it seems. It's either costs too much money, or it doesn't cost enough to make people happy.

Netslave · 03-05-2016, 02:26 AM

Congrats. It's a beautiful car and you will for sure enjoy the hell out of it. We both enjoyed the limited time we were in one on test drives. The fit and finish was top notch. That and the cayman s were on the short list of cars my wife was cross shopping. Guess in hindsight we should have gone with one of those. And for what it's worth that camry probably left the factory with an appropriate level of quality control. And paint.

Netslave · 03-05-2016, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90503

What were the prices for each car?....I always find it curious the Camaro price gets griped about as being high, but then buyers spend more for something else.

I thought the popular thing to do was to buy a POS Mustang for less money than a Camaro?

The Camaro just can't win, it seems. It's either costs too much money, or it doesn't cost enough to make people happy.

Can't speak for the OP but the RCF's we shopped were in the 65-67k range with the performance pack, nav and upgraded audio.

BlueSteel07 · 03-05-2016, 02:52 AM

Buy what you and your wife like and don't worry about the fanboys. I think it's a good looking car.

bpang1234 · 03-05-2016, 04:36 AM

Wait, I'm not even sure I follow the logic trail of OP's statement that if they were gonna spend the money on a 2SS (roughly $46K) they decided to just go full-boat up to an RC-F which base prices at $63K but after clicking a few worthy options you're easily at $70K. That's a $24K swing on a notion of "meh we've gone this far...".

That being written, on a purely car enthusiast level, RC-F would've been my last choice out of all of those...way too heavy compared to the competition and the motor is weak (as well as too peaky) for that price range. In my eyes, they built it to beat the E92 M3 but didn't consider that the paradigm would shift beyond what they were shooting for before it was too late.

In that loftier ($75K to $85K) price range I have it:
1. New Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe (it is incoming)
2. Cadillac ATS-V
3. BMW M4
4. Audi S5 (until they bring back the RS but even here you'd need to take it to Stage 2 which brings the total to about $70K all-in)
5. Lexus RC-F

It's pretty though, I'm on board there. Also Toyota/Lexus reliability is on-point. But if you have enough money to buy a car at that level you have enough money to afford the extended warranty. Hell, my current car is a level below that car and I was easily able to do extended warranty plus maintenance plan.

cwatson6 · 03-05-2016, 05:48 AM

At the end of the day it is what makes you happy. My wife has a Lexus and there is no arguing the quality, amenities and reliability but that is not the reason that we brought our Camaro...

03-04-2016, 09:17 PM	#1
kdu Drives: Acura MDX Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 69	Finally pulled the trigger on a V8... This post is definitely a bit of a bait and switch. Spoiler... I didn't buy the SS. I've been reading this forum for a few months and was narrowing my choices down between a few cars including the 2SS, M2, M4 and the RC F. I got a chance to test drive the Camaro several times and frankly was extremely impressed (and still am). The car is really fantastic and a great value for the performance that you get. However, In the end we decided that for the kind of money we were going to spend on a 2SS might as well go up to a luxury brand. The RC F won over the M2/M4 due to a better balance of every day drivability and comfort coupled with the promise of better overall service experience and reliability. My wife and I actually drove the RC F and the Camaro 2SS back to back before making the final decision. The Camaro was more raw, louder and definitely felt more athletic. However, overall fit and finish, visibility (a problem for my wife in the Camaro) and general amenities went to the Lexus. Look forward to keeping tabs on this forum and maybe picking up a used SS in a few years as a dedicated track car. In the mean time, here is the new ride... __________________ Previous - 2006 350z 6M, 2008 335i Coupe 6M Current - 2015 RC F, 2016 MDX Future - ?

03-04-2016, 10:46 PM	#4
Techn9cian805 The BEAST Drives: '16 2SS, '89 Wife Join Date: May 2015 Location: Central Coast, CA Posts: 2,034 View My Garage	Cant say much other than congrats, i guess. That, and sorry for your loss. Seriously bro, u need a new wife. Lol Jk. __________________ Scarlet: 3/3/16: 2SS Red Hot, M6, Instagram: @luis_what_it_is

03-04-2016, 10:56 PM	#5
buck_dawg_gold Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Spring, TX Posts: 134	Lexus is definitely a chick car. Congrats!! __________________ 2016 Nightfall Gray 2SS A8 NPP Low Gloss Black Wheels

03-05-2016, 12:27 AM	#7
Zeke.Malvo Drives: 1969 Mustang MaCh1 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: SJ Posts: 835	Congrats. The car looks better than the pics you posted tho! Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk __________________ 1969 Pro-Touring MaCh 1 - CHP 427w 10.8 comp - 3140 lbs. - 460 rwhp / 490 rwtq T56 Magnum \|\| 14" 6 piston front / 13" 4 piston rear Wilwood brakes \|\| Hydraulic clutch \|\| 9" Detroit Locker \|\| TCP Coilovers \|\| Forgeline Wheels 18x10 275/35 front, 19x12 325/30 rear

03-05-2016, 02:26 AM	#10
Netslave GM paint evaluation dept Drives: Too many to list Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: South East US Posts: 345	Congrats. It's a beautiful car and you will for sure enjoy the hell out of it. We both enjoyed the limited time we were in one on test drives. The fit and finish was top notch. That and the cayman s were on the short list of cars my wife was cross shopping. Guess in hindsight we should have gone with one of those. And for what it's worth that camry probably left the factory with an appropriate level of quality control. And paint. __________________ Co-owner of Tony the Tiger - A GM factory custom orange and mosaic black striped 2016 SS 2SS - U̶n̶o̶f̶f̶i̶c̶i̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ Officially the worst Mosaic Black paint on a 2016 Camaro SS 2SS See him here - https://drive.google.com/folderview?...3M&usp=sharing Last edited by Netslave; 03-05-2016 at 02:46 AM.

03-04-2016, 09:46 PM	#2
Rob13567 Drives: 2016 camaro 2ss NGM Join Date: May 2015 Location: Georgia Posts: 342	Wow I actually like the rcf, interior especially but it has a lot of weight Did you know if you say "cooler" on voice commands the AC will lower the temperature

03-04-2016, 10:42 PM	#3
GDAGR8 Drives: Camaro-future Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Oceanside Posts: 56	Looks just as fun. I just test drove a 2ss a8 NPP mag ride today and oh my. Hails the mail for sure.

03-05-2016, 01:18 AM	#8
doc7000 Drives: 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Lomita,CA Posts: 806	You guys are being overly harsh on the guy lol...... I like the RCF, really makes for a great cruiser and has the V-8 engine sound to boot.... it certainly does the luxury stuff really well.

03-05-2016, 01:19 AM	#9
90503 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Torrance Posts: 14,564	What were the prices for each car?....I always find it curious the Camaro price gets griped about as being high, but then buyers spend more for something else. I thought the popular thing to do was to buy a POS Mustang for less money than a Camaro? The Camaro just can't win, it seems. It's either costs too much money, or it doesn't cost enough to make people happy.

03-05-2016, 02:52 AM	#12
BlueSteel07 Drives: Nothing Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: USA Posts: 233	Buy what you and your wife like and don't worry about the fanboys. I think it's a good looking car.

03-05-2016, 04:36 AM	#13
bpang1234 You can only YOLO once. Drives: '16 2SS & '15 Subaru Forester Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Albany, OR Posts: 1,677	Wait, I'm not even sure I follow the logic trail of OP's statement that if they were gonna spend the money on a 2SS (roughly $46K) they decided to just go full-boat up to an RC-F which base prices at $63K but after clicking a few worthy options you're easily at $70K. That's a $24K swing on a notion of "meh we've gone this far...". That being written, on a purely car enthusiast level, RC-F would've been my last choice out of all of those...way too heavy compared to the competition and the motor is weak (as well as too peaky) for that price range. In my eyes, they built it to beat the E92 M3 but didn't consider that the paradigm would shift beyond what they were shooting for before it was too late. In that loftier ($75K to $85K) price range I have it: 1. New Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe (it is incoming) 2. Cadillac ATS-V 3. BMW M4 4. Audi S5 (until they bring back the RS but even here you'd need to take it to Stage 2 which brings the total to about $70K all-in) 5. Lexus RC-F It's pretty though, I'm on board there. Also Toyota/Lexus reliability is on-point. But if you have enough money to buy a car at that level you have enough money to afford the extended warranty. Hell, my current car is a level below that car and I was easily able to do extended warranty plus maintenance plan. __________________ 2016 Camaro 2ss -Summit White / Ceramic White -8A, NPP, MRC, Ceramic White package plus knee pads, black bowties. -1st Car to have the "full" SEMA High Performance Graphics kit from 6LEDesigns. -1st Car to have the 6LEDesigns Blade Spoiler. -Borla S-Type w/ custom H-Pipe -Procharger P-1X Stage 2 Last edited by bpang1234; 03-05-2016 at 04:47 AM.

03-05-2016, 05:48 AM	#14
cwatson6 Drives: 2016 Camaro SS - Red Hot Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 343	At the end of the day it is what makes you happy. My wife has a Lexus and there is no arguing the quality, amenities and reliability but that is not the reason that we brought our Camaro...