2015 Challenger Hellcat 707 HP

[LOWDOWN]

I "get it" that this 'Cat has claws and, @ under-$60K (Base) is great value for straight-line guys 'n gals. Really, I get it. BUt, to fully compete with ZL1s and PP-equipped GT500s, there'll be exra-cost options required for non-straight-line comparisons with existing competitors. It weighs more than a ZL1, without MRC as a Standard Feature. It doesn't have brakes like the Z/28.

By the time you "fully equip it" for ALL motorsports challenges, and challengers (small case), the price will NOT be sub-$60...

FACT.

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by HEMI DAVE

If something is a rumor I say it...if it's a fact I say it....

So far one of my rumors turned into a fact...$59K.....

People asked Ralph and he said 11.8?......rumor for now...by you...

Didn't hear that on the largest Challenger Forum in the world...fact....

I did say we will wait and see so don't act so paranoid....it's only a Hellcat

Dave, do you have any idea of what is located @ Featherstone & Doris?

MapQuest it...

[HEMI DAVE]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

I "get it" that this 'Cat has claws and, @ under-$60K (Base) is great value for straight-line guys 'n gals. Really, I get it. BUt, to fully compete with ZL1s and PP-equipped GT500s, there'll be exra-cost options required for non-straight-line comparisons with existing competitors. It weighs more than a ZL1, without MRC as a Standard Feature. It doesn't have brakes like the Z/28.

By the time you "fully equip it" for ALL motorsports challenges, and challengers (small case), the price will NOT be sub-$60...

FACT.

You may be right

...but I want to wait and see the facts of how it runs on a road course before I write it off as 3rd place...........

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by HEMI DAVE

You may be right

...but I want to wait and see the facts of how it runs on a road course before I write it off as 3rd place...........

See...some REALITY is finally befalling you.

Why don't we ALL wait for the REAL results before making some (G)as Monkey the reliable (paid) spokesman for what deserves more consideration than he genuinely gives to this Program that FCA desperately needs to succeed?

[stoopid]

It's exciting to see the bar raised. In a trickle down effect, guys like me benefit in a few years as that tech gets applied to smaller engines, etc.

[Loading.....]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

See...some REALITY is finally befalling you.

Why don't we ALL wait for the REAL results before making some (G)as Monkey the reliable (paid) spokesman for what deserves more consideration than he genuinely gives to this Program that FCA desperately needs to succeed?

Rawlings has spouted out so much mis-information im surprised Dodge allowed the videos to be shown to the public.

[HEMI DAVE]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

See...some REALITY is finally befalling you.

Why don't we ALL wait for the REAL results before making some (G)as Monkey the reliable (paid) spokesman for what deserves more consideration than he genuinely gives to this Program that FCA desperately needs to succeed?

I am all about being real ...that's why I may state what"s being said....but it aint fact till it's proven.....

You guys are more than welcome to cover your ears and bury your head in the sand....but the storm is on the horizon ....

I looked when the GT500 and ZL1 storm came.....now it's your turn to weather a storm

I mean they call this the General Automotive + other cars discussion for a reason...right? That's another FACT by the way

I have nothing against the ZL1 or the GT500...fine cars both....but some of you guys are starting to sound butt hurt.....

Take that up with GM...not me....

[87GNX]

Originally Posted by Loading.....

Rawlings has spouted out so much mis-information im surprised Dodge allowed the videos to be shown to the public.

Rawlings is a jackass.

[woodside783]

http://jalopnik.com/the-707-horsepow...-co-1605863227

Wow 59k start price

[LOWDOWN]

Gen-6, for Mustang AND Camaro, is not far off, Dave. When's that happen for FCA? What Fiat/Lancia/Alfa version awaits YOU?

No one is trying to force you away. And don't get upset when we don't all swallow when you're trying to fill our mouths with Gas Monkey byproduct. Does that guy ever wash?

Hell, they could have got Don Garlits or someone else of known substance to "four-wall" the kitty, and enthusiasts might have actually taken serious note. But Rawlins? The only "reality" he knows of are "dead Presidents" in check form...REALLY. And even on the show, he's just a frontman. He neither owns, nor wrenches on, anything. REALLY.

[Fenderaddict2]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Gen-6, for Mustang AND Camaro, is not far off, Dave. When's that happen for FCA? What Fiat/Lancia/Alfa version awaits YOU?



No one is trying to force you away. And don't get upset when we don't all swallow when you're trying to fill our mouths with Gas Monkey byproduct. Does that guy ever wash?



Hell, they could have got Don Garlits or someone else of known substance to "four-wall" the kitty, and enthusiasts might have actually taken serious note. But Rawlins? The only "reality" he knows of are "dead Presidents" in check form...REALLY. And even on the show, he's just a frontman. He neither owns, nor wrenches on, anything. REALLY.

Huh?

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by Fenderaddict2

Huh?

Originally Posted by HEMI DAVE

I am all about being real ...that's why I may state what"s being said....but it aint fact till it's proven.....

You guys are more than welcome to cover your ears and bury your head in the sand....but the storm is on the horizon ....

I looked when the GT500 and ZL1 storm came.....now it's your turn to weather a storm

I mean they call this the General Automotive + other cars discussion for a reason...right? That's another FACT by the way

I have nothing against the ZL1 or the GT500...fine cars both....but some of you guys are starting to sound butt hurt.....

Take that up with GM...not me....

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Gen-6, for Mustang AND Camaro, is not far off, Dave. When's that happen for FCA? What Fiat/Lancia/Alfa version awaits YOU?

No one is trying to force you away. And don't get upset when we don't all swallow when you're trying to fill our mouths with Gas Monkey byproduct. Does that guy ever wash?

Hell, they could have got Don Garlits or someone else of known substance to "four-wall" the kitty, and enthusiasts might have actually taken serious note. But Rawlins? The only "reality" he knows of are "dead Presidents" in check form...REALLY. And even on the show, he's just a frontman. He neither owns, nor wrenches on, anything. REALLY.

FA, sorry for the missed "quote"...

[HEMI DAVE]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Gen-6, for Mustang AND Camaro, is not far off, Dave. When's that happen for FCA? What Fiat/Lancia/Alfa version awaits YOU?

No one is trying to force you away. And don't get upset when we don't all swallow when you're trying to fill our mouths with Gas Monkey byproduct. Does that guy ever wash?

Hell, they could have got Don Garlits or someone else of known substance to "four-wall" the kitty, and enthusiasts might have actually taken serious note. But Rawlins? The only "reality" he knows of are "dead Presidents" in check form...REALLY. And even on the show, he's just a frontman. He neither owns, nor wrenches on, anything. REALLY.

I agree Rawlings is a joke...thus my reference to him being "high".........the Hellcat however is no joke....

You know....707HP 650TQ is quite a bit....I don't know if I even need anymore.....but if I do, it's a simple pulley swap and tune away ...as soon as the PCM gets unlocked

Besides....I have a C7Z06 coming....that should more than take care of the Gen 6's coming if I need to......

Since you only deal in fact the Gen 6 means nothing until we know more.....

But I am not afraid of rumor so the SVT may step it up to be the new king

.....but the Camaro seems like they wont be entering the HP wars

....What does that mean for you?

[rocket403]

better circle the wagons LOL

that's what some on here sound like.

Fact The Challenger R/T SRT and SRT Hellcat just got a whole lot faster, and the RT is now real close in the 1/4 to the ZL1, the SS is going to need some HP next year to keep up to the RT.

Pricing for the RT 392 SRT and Hellcat is great

still waiting on more track info can the car keep up with the Camaro, Mustang, but as some people have pointed out the gap is not as large to start with as some think.