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mikeyg36 · 01-21-2014, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Overflow

Name some hideous cars that sell well. And I mean cars that are legit hideous. Not hideous in the eyes of a guy with a Camaro. If a car isn't good, it doesn't sell well. You can't say that people don't care about looks. The Pontiac Azteck was hideous and what do you know? It didn't sell very well. I know what to look for, and the Juke is a very well put together car. No complaints here from someone who actually has one in the family of cars.

Look above. When did I say that the Juke was a bad car? I said it was a hideous car. I already named some: Juke, Cherokee, '14 Camaro, Most Porsches, box cars at one point (Soul, Scion xB). The Pontiac Aztek was hideous and it was also a shitty car hence why it didn't sell. I get it, you're a big Nissan fan, that's fine. I'm a big Chevy/GM guy, but when GM makes an ugly car I say it's ugly and I don't try to sugar coat it. There was a thread on the MT forums about ugly cars and the Juke was one of the most mentioned cars, and that site has a much broader audience than someone who drives a Camaro.

Diode Dynamics · 01-21-2014, 11:00 AM

I've seen some pretty cool 510's out there, but I would prefer if Nissan brought a new version of the 240SX back first.

That would sell a lot better than a new 510 IMO. I'm not completely sold on these designs, but they are very reminiscent of the original.

Bring the 240SX BACK!!

Nick C.

Overflow · 01-21-2014, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyg36

Look above. When did I say that the Juke was a bad car? I said it was a hideous car. I already named some: Juke, Cherokee, '14 Camaro, Most Porsches, box cars at one point (Soul, Scion xB). The Pontiac Aztek was hideous and it was also a shitty car hence why it didn't sell. I get it, you're a big Nissan fan, that's fine. I'm a big Chevy/GM guy, but when GM makes an ugly car I say it's ugly and I don't try to sugar coat it. There was a thread on the MT forums about ugly cars and the Juke was one of the most mentioned cars, and that site has a much broader audience than someone who drives a Camaro.

If you want to get unbiased opinions if a car is truly hideous, you have to do it on a site that people have a lot of different opinions. Not a Motortrend forum. lol

As another proof that hideous cars don't sell; take the Edsel brand as a whole for example. (I'm going to assume you know what Edsel is). The sole reason Edsel failed is because a comedian said the car looked like it had a toilet seat in the grille, which made everyone label the car as hideous. Nevermind that the cars were built incredible well (Most Edsels still have their original engines in the cars) the fact that people thought it was hideous, so it didn't sell.

mikeyg36 · 01-21-2014, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Overflow

If you want to get unbiased opinions if a car is truly hideous, you have to do it on a site that people have a lot of different opinions. Not a Motortrend forum. lol

As another proof that hideous cars don't sell; take the Edsel brand as a whole for example. (I'm going to assume you know what Edsel is). The sole reason Edsel failed is because a comedian said the car looked like it had a toilet seat in the grille, which made everyone label the car as hideous. Nevermind that the cars were built incredible well (Most Edsels still have their original engines in the cars) the fact that people thought it was hideous, so it didn't sell.

Okay that's one example. Explain the cars that I named above. And the MT forums are full of automotive enthusiasts of all types and it is probably the most informed and unbiased for an automotive forum. Again, an informed group of people is important because then you get the people that let CR dictate their lives giving their opinion. I'm not arguing over this anymore.

FenwickHockey65 · 01-21-2014, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyg36

A car can be hideous and sell well. Juke, Cherokee, and the '14 Camaro are all hideous and sell well.

If a car's design really is bad, it's not going to sell all that well. It's hard to convince people to come into the showroom if the cars don't even appeal to them.

AZCamaroFan · 01-21-2014, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyg36

A car can be hideous and sell well. Juke, Cherokee, and the '14 Camaro are all hideous and sell well.

PYROLYSIS · 01-30-2014, 08:27 PM

I just now noticed this car on Motortrend. I really like it. It's a funky looking car that looks like it wouldn't be driven only by hipsters. I like the design of the Nismo best. I wouldn't get one but I think it would sell well.

jshaf · 01-30-2014, 08:51 PM

NO WAY IN H%LL i would buy that!

BHamm · 01-30-2014, 08:59 PM

It's been done.

Slapshot · 01-30-2014, 09:08 PM

Seeing them in person, I thought they were kind of cool. Very different from the herd at NAIAS. I like seeing different designs that break out of the norm. I'd bet that little Nissan would outsell the Chevy SS hands down. Price be damned.

Stingray · 03-11-2014, 09:34 PM

Nissan IDx Nismo Shows Up in Jay Leno’s Garage - By Jeff Perez

Since Leno is out of a job, he now has more time to spend working on his YouTube hit series “Jay Leno’s Garage.” We’ve seen the wild and the wonderful in his garage before, but now the Nissan Idx Nismo made its way to Beverly Hills.

Originally introduced in Tokyo, the IDx is likely to be a sporty new coupe in the Nissan lineup if produced. And being a spiritual successor to the Datsun 510, it brings back a sense of nostalgia and design that we all love. Now, Leno gets his chance behind the wheel. Watch it below:

MLL67RSSS · 03-12-2014, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Overflow

As another proof that hideous cars don't sell; take the Edsel brand as a whole for example. (I'm going to assume you know what Edsel is). The sole reason Edsel failed is because a comedian said the car looked like it had a toilet seat in the grille, which made everyone label the car as hideous.

My Dad always said they looked like "a Buick that had sucked on a lemon!"

shaffe · 03-12-2014, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Overflow

Name some hideous cars that sell well. And I mean cars that are legit hideous. Not hideous in the eyes of a guy with a Camaro. If a car isn't good, it doesn't sell well. You can't say that people don't care about looks. The Pontiac Azteck was hideous and what do you know? It didn't sell very well. I know what to look for, and the Juke is a very well put together car. No complaints here from someone who actually has one in the family of cars.

That small Buick SUV supposedly has sold very well and that thing is hideous

Manbearpig · 03-12-2014, 02:47 PM

I think it's pretty cool honestly. I wouldn't say it has an air of beauty like a Camaro for instance but the unique factor makes it a head turner all on its own, how many cars do you see on the road today like look even remotely similar to it? Honestly I would say it would be the most visually appealing car in the Nissan line up.

Nissan looks as if they tried to take some American design aspects with the car.

01-21-2014, 11:00 AM	#44
Diode Dynamics Drives: Camaro Lighting Experts Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,429	I've seen some pretty cool 510's out there, but I would prefer if Nissan brought a new version of the 240SX back first. That would sell a lot better than a new 510 IMO. I'm not completely sold on these designs, but they are very reminiscent of the original. Bring the 240SX BACK!! Nick C. __________________ John C. Diode Dynamics Follow Us: FB // IG // YT // TikTok

01-30-2014, 08:27 PM	#49
PYROLYSIS Remember the Charleston 9 Drives: 2004 KME PREDATOR, 2014 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Summerv1LE SC Posts: 5,381 View My Garage	I just now noticed this car on Motortrend. I really like it. It's a funky looking car that looks like it wouldn't be driven only by hipsters. I like the design of the Nismo best. I wouldn't get one but I think it would sell well. __________________ BRING BACK THE B4C POLICE CAMARO! 2002 V-6 5 speed rally red (current camaro) Also driven:1992 Z-28 305 auto Red w/ black stripes (anniversary), 2001 V-6 auto light pewter metallic,1991 RS V-6 auto Black

01-30-2014, 08:51 PM	#50
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01-30-2014, 08:59 PM	#51
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01-30-2014, 09:08 PM	#52
Slapshot Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Rochester Hills Posts: 167	Seeing them in person, I thought they were kind of cool. Very different from the herd at NAIAS. I like seeing different designs that break out of the norm. I'd bet that little Nissan would outsell the Chevy SS hands down. Price be damned.

03-11-2014, 09:34 PM	#53
Stingray just can't get enough Drives: a bunch of fast toys... Join Date: May 2012 Location: SoFla Posts: 3,598 View My Garage	Nissan IDx Nismo Shows Up in Jay Leno’s Garage - By Jeff Perez Since Leno is out of a job, he now has more time to spend working on his YouTube hit series “Jay Leno’s Garage.” We’ve seen the wild and the wonderful in his garage before, but now the Nissan Idx Nismo made its way to Beverly Hills. Originally introduced in Tokyo, the IDx is likely to be a sporty new coupe in the Nissan lineup if produced. And being a spiritual successor to the Datsun 510, it brings back a sense of nostalgia and design that we all love. Now, Leno gets his chance behind the wheel. Watch it below:

03-12-2014, 02:47 PM	#56
Manbearpig Engineer of softness-ware Drives: 2013 2LT RS Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: SoCal/Chicago Posts: 741	I think it's pretty cool honestly. I wouldn't say it has an air of beauty like a Camaro for instance but the unique factor makes it a head turner all on its own, how many cars do you see on the road today like look even remotely similar to it? Honestly I would say it would be the most visually appealing car in the Nissan line up. Nissan looks as if they tried to take some American design aspects with the car.