GM Reveals 2015 Cadillac ATS Coupe - Page 5

*DGthe3* · 01-14-2014, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Now that I like...yep I can't help it. Sedan for me!

What if there's a 2016 CTS coupe?

KMPrenger · 01-14-2014, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

What if there's a 2016 CTS coupe?

Well maybe I'll like that more. lol. I don't know....I do love those things.

lbls1 · 01-14-2014, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

If you expect an entry level (for the brand) car to look like a concept of a flagship car you are setting yourself up for massive disappointment.

And what, exactly, does the styling of this car have to do with the 6th gen? Yes, they'll be built on the same platform, but that doesn't mean a whole lot. Because these two cars were also built on the Alpha platform:

2012 Code 130R Concept

And the 2014 CTS

They don't share a single major dimension with each other & their proportions are clearly quite different. There isn't really anything that I can see about Alpha that dictates how a car built off of it will look.

It may end up being a disappointment, because IMO the domestic new car designs have lapsed into an era of generic and lifeless shapes; More disturbing is the fact that some current designs that feature flat and lifeless form seems to be widely accepted. There have been some exceptions to the bland styling status quo that has taken over many of domestic designs in the last 25 years; The Camaro has been an exception to the cookie cutter bland design jargon, and the Malibu has taken a brave effort in getting away from the look of predictability.

Not for anything, my description above was aimed directly at the ATS. If the Camaro is built on this chassis, it will have an effect on its shell dimensions. That's not to say that the car should be boring, but that the Camaro will need to work (struggle) to stay away from the steam-lined and IMO boring and predictable look that this ATS coupe seems to exhibit.

FenwickHockey65 · 01-14-2014, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lbls1

It may end up being a disappointment, because IMO the domestic new car designs have lapsed into an era of generic and lifeless shapes; More disturbing is the fact that some current designs that feature flat and lifeless form seems to be widely accepted. There have been some exceptions to the bland styling status quo that has taken over many of domestic designs in the last 25 years; The Camaro has been an exception to the cookie cutter bland design jargon, and the Malibu has taken a brave effort in getting away from the look of predictability.

Not for anything, my description above was aimed directly at the ATS. If the Camaro is built on this chassis, it will have an effect on its shell dimensions. That's not to say that the car should be boring, but that the Camaro will need to work (struggle) to stay away from the steam-lined and IMO boring and predictable look that this ATS coupe seems to exhibit.

lolwut.

Malibu is probably one of the more boring cars in the lineup right now. The '14 refresh helped slightly but the side profile of the car is utterly forgettable.

And Alpha is easily scalable. You really can't use ATS Coupe to figure much about the 6th gen simply because it's still a ways off.

I can tell you right now the engine lineup for ATS in a short while will be completely different than what it is now.

lbls1 · 01-14-2014, 08:03 PM

^The Malibu is no more boring than this ATS; In fact to me it might even be a little more interesting to look at.

The point that I'm making is that for what they may ask for the ATS coupe, the flat styling leaves a little to be desired. The car looks like it wants to be longer, or at least its reaching for something that's not quite there.

Its pleasant, but at the same time it doesn't excite the imagination. My honest op.

*DGthe3* · 01-14-2014, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

I can tell you right now the engine lineup for ATS in a short while will be completely different than what it is now.

2, 3, & 4 rotor Wankels?

FenwickHockey65 · 01-14-2014, 08:10 PM

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^The Malibu is no more boring than this ATS; In fact to me it might even be a little more interesting to look at.

The point that I'm making is that for what they may ask for the ATS coupe, the flat styling leaves a little to be desired. The car looks like it wants to be longer, or at least its reaching for something that's not quite there.

Its pleasant, but at the same time it doesn't excite the imagination. My honest op.

Malibu's a snoozefest.

This at least has some interesting lines to it. If you're going off the renders, don't. GM sucks at making them.

JewelSS · 01-14-2014, 08:13 PM

Not bad but agree on the new badge... me no likey it.
Always been a big fan of Cadillac's and not sure on these yet, might have to wait and see in person.

oklapike · 01-14-2014, 08:51 PM

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I can tell you right now the engine lineup for ATS in a short while will be completely different than what it is now.

How short a while? Are we talking a MY 2015 revamp, or further out? I know you've already mentioned dropping the 2.5L for '15. LGX and LF3, or a V8?

FenwickHockey65 · 01-14-2014, 08:58 PM

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How short a while? Are we talking a MY 2015 revamp, or further out? I know you've already mentioned dropping the 2.5L for '15. LGX and LF3, or a V8?

Won't be for 2015 (or we would've seen it with this Coupe).

oklapike · 01-14-2014, 09:01 PM

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Won't be for 2015 (or we would've seen it with this Coupe).

Oh yeah, good point.

Kyle2k · 01-14-2014, 09:20 PM

I'm not positive yet, but I think I actually like the sedan better.

motorhead · 01-14-2014, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

I'm really digging the white. Rolling art for sure.

PYROLYSIS · 01-14-2014, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JewelSS

Not bad but agree on the new badge... me no likey it.
Always been a big fan of Cadillac's and not sure on these yet, might have to wait and see in person.

They just wanted to make it more modern. It's not that bad. There would be a lot less discussion about it if they hadn't announced the change.

01-14-2014, 08:03 PM	#61
lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,073	^The Malibu is no more boring than this ATS; In fact to me it might even be a little more interesting to look at. The point that I'm making is that for what they may ask for the ATS coupe, the flat styling leaves a little to be desired. The car looks like it wants to be longer, or at least its reaching for something that's not quite there. Its pleasant, but at the same time it doesn't excite the imagination. My honest op. __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '15 Malibu LTZ 2LZ Turbo *'14 CAMARO ZL1 Blue Ray Metallic* '25 Silverado 1500 High Country 6.2L

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Kyle2k LVL 50 Troll Stomper Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 3,463	I'm not positive yet, but I think I actually like the sedan better. __________________

01-14-2014, 08:13 PM	#64
JewelSS Norcal Camaros Drives: 2010 Red Jewel 2SS L99 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Nor-Cal Bay Area Posts: 759 View My Garage	Not bad but agree on the new badge... me no likey it. Always been a big fan of Cadillac's and not sure on these yet, might have to wait and see in person.