Old School Muscle - Competitive with Modern Muscle?

RTTV · 09-29-2013, 10:24 PM

Silverlsinva · 09-30-2013, 07:22 AM

I think its mostly the tire tech that has helped these older cars perform better that they have in the past. But still it goes to show how great older muscle cars are.

its a syn · 09-30-2013, 07:29 AM

Don't know if that was a Z-11 but that Chevy kicked some butt!!

LostPony · 09-30-2013, 10:35 AM

In a word, no. This simply shows how with modern tires they were good at one thing, going fast in a straight line. Factor in braking and handling, and they all lose to most of the entry level modern counterparts. Then factor in safety and amenities, lose lose lose.

That said, I would trade my '12 Boss for a '69 or '70 in a heartbeat!

upflying · 09-30-2013, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by its a syn

Don't know if that was a Z-11 but that Chevy kicked some butt!!

Sure looks like one.
http://www.348-409.com/z11.html

ChrisBlair · 09-30-2013, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LostPony

In a word, no. This simply shows how with modern tires they were good at one thing, going fast in a straight line. Factor in braking and handling, and they all lose to most of the entry level modern counterparts. Then factor in safety and amenities, lose lose lose.

That said, I would trade my '12 Boss for a '69 or '70 in a heartbeat!

There is a long-standing and very well subscribed myth that cars from the '60s and '70s both couldn't handle when new, and can't be made to handle well today.

While a car like an AAR 'Cuda is no match for a '12 ZL-1 on a road course, the 'Cuda is not an evil-handling vehicle that can only manage to go in a straight line. It is a complete myth that old cars cannot handle. The truth is that they cannot handle as well as new cars, and thus people say they 'sucked' at handling. A '70 Trans Am was noted for handling for example and while that is within its era it is worth saying that it was good enough to be noteworthy for its era. And don't forget that cars like a GT350 and a Z/28 were made to handle well enough to be competitive racing cars in their day.

f5journal · 10-01-2013, 08:22 AM

Let's just say I remember when I took off the bias ply Polyglass tires on my 69 Z-28 and installed a set of the new fangled BF Goodrich radial T/A's

Holy Cow

09-30-2013, 07:29 AM	#3
its a syn B.O.D. 02/16/10 Drives: 2010 SGM Sp. Edition 2017 RS Conver Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Albia,Iowa Posts: 3,959 View My Garage	Don't know if that was a Z-11 but that Chevy kicked some butt!! __________________

09-30-2013, 10:35 AM	#4
LostPony Drives: 2012 Boss 302 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Charles Town WV Posts: 254	In a word, no. This simply shows how with modern tires they were good at one thing, going fast in a straight line. Factor in braking and handling, and they all lose to most of the entry level modern counterparts. Then factor in safety and amenities, lose lose lose. That said, I would trade my '12 Boss for a '69 or '70 in a heartbeat! __________________ 2012 Kona Boss 302 #2758

10-01-2013, 08:22 AM	#7
f5journal Senior Camaro Fanatic Drives: 2011 SS/RS manual - White Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: aiken, sc Posts: 1,980	Let's just say I remember when I took off the bias ply Polyglass tires on my 69 Z-28 and installed a set of the new fangled BF Goodrich radial T/A's Holy Cow __________________ Former '68 and '69 Z/28 Owner...........Now sporting around in a 2011 RS/SS with........Kooks LT's and cats, JRE tune, CAI, scoop, ZL1 Bumper conversion, custom ZL-1 grille, halo harness, Painted silver stripes, GM GFX, black painted lower edge of skirts and rear bumper. MGW shifter.....and now a 3.91 1LE diff

09-30-2013, 07:22 AM	#2
Silverlsinva Drives: 2013 Fiat 500 Abarth Grigio Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Manassas, Va Posts: 3,124	I think its mostly the tire tech that has helped these older cars perform better that they have in the past. But still it goes to show how great older muscle cars are.