We are on edmunds again!

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by stovt001

Don't feel bad. You're helpful. This is nothing more than yellow journalism taking something small and blowing it up into something it isn't just to be sensational.

There it is!!! I was gonna say something myself it somebody didn't.

Shame on you, Edmunds!!!!

Originally Posted by The_Blur

Tran, can we make a post on the front of Camaro5: "What Quality Control Issues?"

Good idea! I've already drafted it, :

"Recently Edmunds.com reported that the Camaro has had numerous quality control issues. We're here to report that they were mistaken. The fact is, it's the Camaro's exceptional quality control staff at the Oshawa assembly plant that has prevented all known issues from appearing in actually delivered cars. What they reported on was a precident-setting amount of transparancy on the part of General Motors that allowed us to even know these issues existed! Sounds like your reading comprehension needs improvement, Edmunds!"


fools.

[stovt001]

Posted in response on Edmunds.com:

As a longtime Camaro5 member, to say I am appalled at this piece of "journalism" is putting things quite mildly. This is nothing more than shameless yellow journalism, making a big deal out of a non-issue by reading things into the situation that aren't even there. This is cheap sensationalism masquerading as reporting, and does nothing more than confirm Mr Visnic's baseless anti-Detroit bias. First model year bugs are nothing new. Every single car has a higher than average amount of bugs that need to be worked out in early build models. You'll notice the vast majority of issues in that list were minor, one-off circumstances. The average new car has more than one defect from the factory. Out of thousands of Camaros sold, this is the full extent of a list we can put together. How can you say as fact from this data that the Camaro has more problems than the average car? You can not. Also, it is only fair to point out that the Camaro5 forums include extremely dedicated fans, who obsess over their vehicle far more than the average car buyer. "Mismatched paint" on production models has for the most part been limited to differences noticeable only by a perfectionist inspecting every detail at Pebble Beach standards.

So Mr Visnic, in the spirit of journalism, I believe it is only fair to demand you provide statistical proof that the Camaro is plagued by issues at a level significantly above that of the average new car.

Then again, what do you expect from a guy who argues Cadillac is a failing brand because sales were down this year? Toyota and Honda sales were down too, so I suppose that means they are failing brands as well.

How pathetic.

[FenwickHockey65]

Hey, if anyone wants to sign up at GMI and give me a hand running damage control, it'd be greatly appreciated.

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...cessary-82066/

[Mr. Wyndham]

I'll do the best I can.

[Tran]

OUR RESPONSE:

http://www.camaro5.com/

[Georgie]

just noticed one typo:

"At not (no) point"

great response tran. the list is a valuable asset to have--it is not though a log of widespread problems with all vehicles.

[Tran]

Originally Posted by Georgie

just noticed one typo:

"At not (no) point"

great response tran. the list is a valuable asset to have--it is not though a log of widespread problems with all vehicles.

Thank you for the correction and feedback. Fixed.

[HTWLSS]

It's like reality show participants complaining that they were portrayed in a bad way due to "editing".
In all fairness, if you don't want someone repeating it, don't supply them with the material to begin with.

[Tran]

Originally Posted by HTWLSS

It's like reality show participants complaining that they were portrayed in a bad way due to "editing".
In all fairness, if you don't want someone repeating it, don't supply them with the material to begin with.

Who's complaining? We're simply setting the record straight from our point of view by providing an "other side" view to what's been written on other sites. Others are free to interpret the issues list any way they'd like, but so are we.

If we were to go down the route of not supplying them with any material to begin with, then should we implement a policy of simply deleting all threads posted regarding an issue with the Camaro? I think not.

[Unfair]

Originally Posted by stovt001

Every new car, especially first model year runs of an entirely new model on a new platform, will have issues.

Zeta platform chassis and the LS3 engine have been out for years.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Unfair

Zeta platform chassis and the LS3 engine have been out for years.

Camaro is Zeta II. Modified from the G8.

[Sixtyniner]

Hi Guys,

Check this out......

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009...blem-is-fixed/

[Kyle2k]

Originally Posted by Sixtyniner

Hi Guys,

Check this out......

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009...blem-is-fixed/

One of the people commented about how hard launches at 5-6k rpm was mistreating a car (which I agree with it), but the fact that GM covers something like that under a warranty is an obvious testament to the engineering and enthusiasm they have towards the longevity and performance of their vehicles. Why is everyone out on a witch hunt for GM again? Hey edmunds, why don't you quote that...

[Georgie]

nissan doesn't cover it, despite being advertised as such!