To our police officers...question

[CajunCamaroChic]

Originally Posted by Quackaddict

I have my LSU plate on until my permenant plates come in. GEAUX Tigers

EXCELLENT!!!!

[The Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

With this attitude, I would write you every time....and then walk around your vehicle to double check EVERYTHING you could be written for. If you come off as a jerk and be disrespectful to me?..., me...being the person who puts my life on the line to save yours on a daily basis???....yeah, YOU get a ticket.

I never thought about that...will show more respect than I already do next time...I have been pulled over 13 times...all warnings...why? Cause I treat the officers with respect and when asked if I knew what I did...OF COURSE I DO! Then they would tell me to learn my lesson and let me go. I have never been pulled over for the same thing twice.

Only once I said no...cause I really didn't. He thought I wasn't wearing my seatbelt (I had my seat really leaned back) and he literally ran to the door after we stopped to make sure it was on lol. It kinda threw me off cause all the other times it took a while till the cops were at my window.

I just a quick question...I always greet the officers by their names...do you guys like that?

[slowerthanu]

I haven't stopped one, I have not even seen one in the city I work in.

Each stop is unique and I will stop one for a violation if I need to.

In Utah, a front plate is not a primary stop.

[Teleplayer]

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Originally Posted by 1320junkie
Hey Teleplayer..in my arena I can hold you for up to 48 hours without due cause..I bet that would get your blood boiling..and there is nothing you could do about it either..lol..Point is all officers are exercising some sort of restraint when dealing with civilians.

Wow, you are really on a power trip.

Originally Posted by 1320junkie

No it's a part of what I do..please dont speak on what you dont know.

I know that you think it is funny to take away someone's rights and hold them without due cause, as you just pointed out. Great attitude.

[broncosman]

Originally Posted by kopacko

How about responding to a "silent/panic" alarm at your residence? Or to a "hold up" alarm at a business? We do not use lights and sirens for that. We dont want the criminals to know we are coming. Half the calls I get are these types of calls.

heheh the other calls are:
1: can you tell the neighbor to turn off his generator? (it's after the hurricane and no one has power. The generator is keeping people's food cool so he can feed his family)
2: my boyfriend won't let me go to sleep.
3: they're shooting fireworks (4th of july)
4: they're being too loud (new years)
5: there's a drunk driver in front of me (we catch up, not drunk. the complainant was just mad that he/she was cut off on the road)
6: I was assaulted (he was drunk and started the fight)
7: suspicious person (neighbor is taking out the trash)
it goes on and on.

Originally Posted by Teleplayer

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1320junkie
Hey Teleplayer..in my arena I can hold you for up to 48 hours without due cause..I bet that would get your blood boiling..and there is nothing you could do about it either..lol..Point is all officers are exercising some sort of restraint when dealing with civilians.

Wow, you are really on a power trip.


I know that you think it is funny to take away someone's rights and hold them without due cause, as you just pointed out. Great attitude.

How about you pick up a book called "Code of Criminal Procedure" and learn a thing or 2. The things we do are backed by the State's laws & Federal Laws. If you didn't know already, Federal Laws encompass a set standard ruling for every state to Follow. State laws are a continuation of the federal laws fine tuned to govern its citizens but no state law can overrule a federal law. Here's some homework for you, read up on the laws of detention and let me know what you find.

i'll help you out a little: Detention w/o Charge

I don't know everything, nor does any officer. We learn constantly every day. So if I'm wrong about any of this, I hope one of my brother/sister officer's on here will correct me

[Justin]

Originally Posted by Teleplayer

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1320junkie
Hey Teleplayer..in my arena I can hold you for up to 48 hours without due cause..I bet that would get your blood boiling..and there is nothing you could do about it either..lol..Point is all officers are exercising some sort of restraint when dealing with civilians.

Wow, you are really on a power trip.



I know that you think it is funny to take away someone's rights and hold them without due cause, as you just pointed out. Great attitude.

He's a FEDERAL LEO. If he's pulling you over, you're in violation of a FEDERAL crime. Hell, if HE'S pulling you over, you're probably a serial killer.

When was the last time you went on a killing spree? How about transported mass amounts of drugs across state lines? Are you a terrorist?

If you answered no to all of those, you probably don't ever have to worry about running into him. If you answered yes, well, then that's PLENTY of reason to throw your butt in jail.

[1320junkie]

Originally Posted by Teleplayer

I know that you think it is funny to take away someone's rights and hold them without due cause, as you just pointed out. Great attitude.

And what did I imply to make you think I think it's funny? See you need to respect these fine officers in here giving you friendly and courteous advice. God I respect them so much for the jobs that they do. I am glad I don't have to deal with that side of it. Keep running off at the mouth it will get you far If you pop up on our radar you have done something far greater than a traffic violation. The beauty of it is these guys will still put it all on the line for you regardless of what you think of them.

[silentbob]

Originally Posted by davidj

What class do you think your in? Do you have a lot of tat's or something?
I'm polite etc. and have a 50/50 ticket to warning percentage.

I think they see a red mustang that is not a European sports/luxury car and not a GM sports car. It seems with a lot of posts on here, the cops just love the camaro and let the person off the hook. I'm a short, thin, white guy. I had my business casual clothes on several times. I think they just hate the car or me.

[patriotpa]

Originally Posted by bobby35ny

Let me guess, you couldn't pass the written test or meet the height requirement?

=bobby

Good one!

There's another guy in here...he knows who he is...who hates on military/ex-military the same way. (He made the height requirement)

Cops, soldiers, EMS ALL deserve respect. Admittedly, some are a$sholes. Not all. They get respect because their life is on the line, and for crappy pay.

[TAG UR IT]

^Agreed with your PM, patriotpa.

I know EXACTLY what you are talking about.

[beowulf80]

Do you need to be respectful of officers who pull you over? No, you really don't
Do they need to let you off with just a warning? No, they really don't
Should your attitude and responses have merit on if you get a ticket or not? No, they really shouldn't. But by that logic, you should get a ticket every time you break the law, even a little. Its just common sense that being pleasant and respectful will go a long ways in keeping you from getting a ticket.

Its been awhile since I've been pulled over, but the last time that I was here was a list of what I did wrong:
Speeding 75 in a 55 (while passing, I still think that one is stupid)
Failure to signal going out for the pass (I did signal coming back in, I must not have pressed the signal hard enough while going out)
Rear liscense plate was unlight (bulbs had burned out w/out my knowledge)
Expired Sticker
DL address did not match current address

Here's what I did:
Roll down all the windows
Turn on all cab lights
Those were so the officer could more clearly see into the car and feel less at risk
Speak in a kind, curteous, and honest manner
I did not ask for a break

Result:
Written warning for all offenses
Everthing was cleared up in the next 3 days.

Was the officer being kind to me? Absolutely. Was I lucky? Maybe somewhat, but I still believe that by not acting like a jerk, I certainly helped his kind actions along.

I'm not an officer, but I give them alot of respect. I try to do that with everyone. Try it sometime, its a heck of a lot nicer way to live.

P.S. - I have no front license plate on my Camaro. I hope that if I am pulled over my kind words will keep me from getting a ticket, but it will be certainly within the officers rights to write me up anyways.

[broncosman]

nice post beowulf80

The night before last (Saturday night) I was running radar and clocked this pickup going 52 in a 35. I start catching up to him and turn on my strobes. As I get behind him, I hear a metal hitting the ground sound and then sparks. As I'm passing the object, I see it's a gun. I bump for another unit to come check by to pick up the gun while and another unit to come and help me detain the guys. They stop and I approached their vehicle watching their hands the closer I got to the window. I act like I didn't see them toss the gun, asking for their license and proof of financial responsibility (insurance). I ask for the passengers I.D. as well. I tell them to hang tight and that I would be right back. I go back and wait for the backup unit (which I honestly should have done before approaching them but I felt If I waited too long they would have ran). Once the backup unit arrived, we walked up and detained both people. Once they were in the back of our shops (patrol cars) I went to search the vehicle. Heheh I found a walmart sized bag of weed. I was laughing my butt off. If they wouldn't have thrown the gun, I might have never known and they would have just gotten a ticket. But, on the other hand, had they not thrown the gun, they could have used it against me. The gun they tossed was a .45 cal Taurus semi auto pistol. A tad bigger then my .40cal Glock.

wanna know what other joys we HPD officers enjoy? If we would have gotten into the chace, and they hit someone, hurt someone or such. I would be liable b/c I initiated the traffic stop. From what I gather, the city doesn't back us up. In fact, they even put a time constraint on our chases. Every officer knows that when a chase becomes unsafe that they will terminate the chase.

[PieNsky]

Originally Posted by Teleplayer

This is exactly what bothers me about cops. Since when is "attitude" or being "mouthy" a criminal offense? It's a big power trip. Don't piss off the cop because he has the power to retaliate.

I always wondered about warnings. Are those actual methods of law enforcement that are written down somewhere? It's an obvious method to show favoritism to certain people. Like if a friend or local politician is pulled over. Or maybe the wife of a cop. Think about it, someone breaks the law so you decide to pull them over. Why should there be any other element that decides if they get punished for breaking that law? They either did nor did not. Attitude or gender or who they are should not enter into the equation.

As far as I can see, every cop should get an automatic ticket every week because they always violate multiple laws every time I see one. They always drive way over the speed limit, and they also tailgate on the highway. Plus my favorite is when they jump out from behind a tree and point a radar gun at your car. If you jumped out from behind a tree and pointed something at them, that would be sufficient cause for them to shoot at you - so I don't see why they are allowed to do it.

I never get a warning, and always am a polite person but I live outside of Louisville in and near small towns. You get what you pay for! The dude I carpool with is 6'4" and big. A LEO pulled him over and he spoke rather harsh with the cop. Both me and my brother thought he was going to ticket him however he apologised for pulling him over If that would have been me, I would have told to write my own damn ticket too

[DCSS]

Originally Posted by 1320junkie

Hey Teleplayer..in my arena I can hold you for up to 48 hours without due cause..I bet that would get your blood boiling..and there is nothing you could do about it either..lol..Point is all officers are exercising some sort of restraint when dealing with civilians.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. Of course you'd have to have due cause to hold someone for any reason for even 1 minute. At least the law I've enforced for the last 20 years doesn't include holding any person without probable cause or reasonable suspicion...and simply because someone doesn't tell you why they were at Kmart or where they are going does not give any officer, federal or local and anything in between to hold you for any period of time...the only exception I can think of is if a crime was just committed there and you match a lookout, then one could be detained until it's determined if you are the suspect or not. In DC this would be considered kidnapping by our law. And 1320junkie-no disrespect- could you please quote a code from somewhere saying you can do this, federal, local or your orders if your allowed to disclose them...I'm interested, it would be new to me.
I've only glanced through this thread and noticed some cop bashing-I say so what...I've learned to live with that, it is part of the job...but I do think people who do this are just ignorant of what the job is all about (not saying they are ignorant) and only understand it from what they see on tv or hear in music, maybe from what happened to a friend or personal experiences on a traffic stop and I bet on that stop, as long as they kept their cool they only recieved what they deserved if anything, and nothing more. If you don't know...most officers know what would cause complaints or discipline or even criminal charges and wouldnt jeopardize their families or their own well-being just because you called them out of their name.
I just tell people I have conversations with who think along these lines that they are welcome to come down and go on a ride-along anytime they want. My 2 cents.