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Old 07-10-2009, 11:25 AM   #71
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This is exactly what bothers me about cops. Since when is "attitude" or being "mouthy" a criminal offense? It's a big power trip. Don't piss off the cop because he has the power to retaliate.

I always wondered about warnings. Are those actual methods of law enforcement that are written down somewhere? It's an obvious method to show favoritism to certain people. Like if a friend or local politician is pulled over. Or maybe the wife of a cop. Think about it, someone breaks the law so you decide to pull them over. Why should there be any other element that decides if they get punished for breaking that law? They either did nor did not. Attitude or gender or who they are should not enter into the equation.

As far as I can see, every cop should get an automatic ticket every week because they always violate multiple laws every time I see one. They always drive way over the speed limit, and they also tailgate on the highway. Plus my favorite is when they jump out from behind a tree and point a radar gun at your car. If you jumped out from behind a tree and pointed something at them, that would be sufficient cause for them to shoot at you - so I don't see why they are allowed to do it.
I'm glad your world is so black and white with no gray area. I personally would fell like an ass if I wrote you a ticket for 3 MPH over the limit, rolling through a stop sign, rushing your pregnant wife to the hospital, being unfamiliar with the area, your license plate light burned out and you didn't know it, your license expired last week and you didn't get the notice in the mail, or you name the minor violation or reasonable excuse. The next time you get pulled over, please tell the officer that you don't agree with warnings and I'm sure he or she will be happy to give you a ticket instead.
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Old 07-10-2009, 11:25 AM   #72
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All thrre pages, and I don't think I saw anyone say this:

Thank you, LEO, for the job you do. I appreciate the work you do. You're way underpaid. You often work in really crappy conditions and have to see the worst situations and sights. You have to deal with the worst of the worst in people.

I say go get 'em.

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Old 07-10-2009, 11:41 AM   #73
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I got pulled over twice because the officers wanted to see the car, very nice officers. I got pulled over a third time because I was speeding, I was doing 45 in a 30 and was coming down a hill, give me a F'ing break. Anyway, I know people in high places if you know what I mean so did not get a ticket. He did take away my PBA card though and said to have the person who gave it to me to give him a call if I want it back........So I wanted to say, "That's ok officer "something up your @ss" I'll just get a new one."

If a Cop pulls you over for no Front plate only, they really have nothing better to do, and should just continue to stake out Dunkin Donuts or something. Most cops are cool, my brother-in-law is a detective and he told me most cops will NOT give you a problem and are cool, but some think they are like the new sheriff in town and will be all high and mighty and are just plain A-holes.

One final note, most troopers and officers have a lot of respect for this car. It is an American Muscle car, and is a symbol of freedom in the U.S., imo. So cops are going to give you a break. Just don't race on the street, because even I would throw you in jail for that, LOL!
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Old 07-10-2009, 12:09 PM   #74
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This is exactly what bothers me about cops. Since when is "attitude" or being "mouthy" a criminal offense? It's a big power trip. Don't piss off the cop because he has the power to retaliate.

I always wondered about warnings. Are those actual methods of law enforcement that are written down somewhere? It's an obvious method to show favoritism to certain people. Like if a friend or local politician is pulled over. Or maybe the wife of a cop. Think about it, someone breaks the law so you decide to pull them over. Why should there be any other element that decides if they get punished for breaking that law? They either did nor did not. Attitude or gender or who they are should not enter into the equation.

As far as I can see, every cop should get an automatic ticket every week because they always violate multiple laws every time I see one. They always drive way over the speed limit, and they also tailgate on the highway. Plus my favorite is when they jump out from behind a tree and point a radar gun at your car. If you jumped out from behind a tree and pointed something at them, that would be sufficient cause for them to shoot at you - so I don't see why they are allowed to do it.

It's all about RESPECT. However if you think everyone should be treated equally, tickets should be issued EVERTIME. So when you are 0.5mph over the speed limit, boom you get a ticket. When you switch lanes without a signal, another ticket. OR you can give the cops the opportunity to use their judgement, if you respect them and show you are decent human being that slipped up, yu may be treated exactly that way. If you decide to take th nasty rude approach, you will also earn that same amount of respect. They are human too and deserve to be treated as such.

I can just see you going into a hamburger joint and insulting the cook,,, and then wondering why your burger tastes funny.
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Old 07-10-2009, 12:40 PM   #75
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I got pulled over the first time on Sunday - was doing 81 in a 65 Sometimes it is hard to really keep track of the speed. Typically I use cruise control but sometimes it is hard with people moving in and out of lanes, etc - which is what happened this time.
This is why I love the speed warning system in the camaro. you don't realize how fast your going or how fast you get up to too fast of a speed. I have mine set for 74 and when I break it I know it. There are alot more police cars on the road during summer and so far I haven't had any issues with no front plate. I do plan on getting it painted RJT and put on to be completely legal but for now my front plate is on my dash hopefully visable enough to keep me safe until I get the plate holder painted.
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Old 07-10-2009, 12:48 PM   #76
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I have no problem with police and have always been treated fairly by them...except the one night they pulled me over because "it's the time of night where most people are driving drunk"...don't get me started on that one. But anyway, the only thing that pisses me off is when u see a cop flying down the road 10+ over on non-highway roads with no lights on, not chasing anyone..just going fast. I HATE that, if you have cause to speed, put on your lights so you're not a hazard yourself.

Maybe the police on here could give me a possible explanation why I see cops doing this all the time. Is there ever a reason to speed that excessively without your lights on? And I thought it was illegal for them to speed without their lights on??
Perhaps this is one of those deals where you have seen this twice in a short period of time and it seems like it happens all the time. I challenge you to count the amount of times you see an officer doing his/her duty and abiding by all traffic laws in the next two weeks. Then, compare that to the relatively few times you see them seemingly breaking the law for no apparent reason. Maybe after this, you may realize you are over-reacting.
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Old 07-10-2009, 12:51 PM   #77
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I haven't had very good luck in my mustang. I get treated like a criminal when I've been pulled over. I've been given a ticket 2 times for 10 or less over the speed limit, no front license plate (the 05 doesn't even have a designated place for one), paper tag expired by 2 days, never a warning. I got 3 of those in one month. I'm never rude, I don't say much of anything but answer their questions and get attitude back in which I just sit there and take it. I don't get it. There's definitely a class system in practice when deciding which violators to nail.
A class system? Thats a very broad statement to make. You say you were going over the posted speed limit and you were cited, you admit to not having a front license plate (a TX requirement?) and were cited, and you had a expired tag and were cited? All of those seem like legit reasons to receive a citation but you never got a warning? Maybe its because you were not very happy when you were engaging in the conversation with the officer. You know that your body tells more of what you say and feel than your mouth could ever describe, right? Next time, try talking more and advise the officer you tried to stop in a safe location for him. Come off like you understand that traffic stops are the worst possible scenarios for us and maybe you will get a full conversation going instead of just question and answer.
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Old 07-10-2009, 12:57 PM   #78
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Wow this went a little crazy oh well to all of our military and law enforcement on all levels thank you! Ps can someone help me w a ticket I got lol J/K
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Old 07-10-2009, 12:57 PM   #79
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This is exactly what bothers me about cops. Since when is "attitude" or being "mouthy" a criminal offense? It's a big power trip. Don't piss off the cop because he has the power to retaliate.

I always wondered about warnings. Are those actual methods of law enforcement that are written down somewhere? It's an obvious method to show favoritism to certain people. Like if a friend or local politician is pulled over. Or maybe the wife of a cop. Think about it, someone breaks the law so you decide to pull them over. Why should there be any other element that decides if they get punished for breaking that law? They either did nor did not. Attitude or gender or who they are should not enter into the equation.

As far as I can see, every cop should get an automatic ticket every week because they always violate multiple laws every time I see one. They always drive way over the speed limit, and they also tailgate on the highway. Plus my favorite is when they jump out from behind a tree and point a radar gun at your car. If you jumped out from behind a tree and pointed something at them, that would be sufficient cause for them to shoot at you - so I don't see why they are allowed to do it.
It bothers you that I stop you for a violation and decide that based on your response towards me as to whether or not you get a ticket or a warning?

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Since when is "attitude" or being "mouthy" a criminal offense?
Actually it can be...its called disorderly conduct.

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I always wondered about warnings. Are those actual methods of law enforcement that are written down somewhere?
Yes, since it is officer discretion on whether to issue a citation. I take things like attitude, time, place, location, type of violation and driver history into account. Regardless if a citation is issued, the rest of the drivers on the roadway who see me interacting with someone "think" I am giving him/her a ticket and I believe will be a little more attentive to what they are doing.

The rest of your response is quite asinine and I don't want to engage in that kind of a conversation.
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Old 07-10-2009, 01:03 PM   #80
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I have no problem with police and have always been treated fairly by them...except the one night they pulled me over because "it's the time of night where most people are driving drunk"...don't get me started on that one. But anyway, the only thing that pisses me off is when u see a cop flying down the road 10+ over on non-highway roads with no lights on, not chasing anyone..just going fast. I HATE that, if you have cause to speed, put on your lights so you're not a hazard yourself.

Maybe the police on here could give me a possible explanation why I see cops doing this all the time. Is there ever a reason to speed that excessively without your lights on? And I thought it was illegal for them to speed without their lights on??
How about responding to a "silent/panic" alarm at your residence? Or to a "hold up" alarm at a business? We do not use lights and sirens for that. We dont want the criminals to know we are coming. Half the calls I get are these types of calls.
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Old 07-10-2009, 01:08 PM   #81
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Ok so you just look for any reason to stop someone, so you can see if they are doing anything else bad. Where I came from and where I am going is not really anyone's business and nobody is obligated to answer that question. I don't see how the fact that I came from K-mart is connected with why I ran a red light. If you want to find wanted people, then just go find them at home, they all have to be sleeping somewhere.
You're right, it is nobody's business but when I ask you and you reply with, "I'm on my way to the emergency room", I'd be way more inclined to tell you to get there as quick and as safe as you can and walk away, then to take 15-20 minutes writing you a ticket.
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Old 07-10-2009, 01:13 PM   #82
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It amazes me at some of these responses, IF you are pulled over for violating the law, then you are SUPPOSED to get a ticket, Do Wrong and Face the Punishment, Right? So what is the problem witha Police officer giving you a BREAK if you are nice. Everyone who has ever been pulled over hopes that they do not get a ticket, and when someone gives you a break people complain, but if they do not give you a break then people become irrate,?????????

In my town if a Male law enforcement officer pulls over a female, they get a ticket, no questions asked and its the same is a female pulls over a male, causes less problems. Thats just they way the chif sees it.

I guess what I am trying to say is we all know right from wrong whther it be a front tag, or speeding,you know when you do it that it is wrong, noone is mashing the pedal except you. So face the music.

Everyone is adult enough to realize that it is how things are approached, if you are being an idiot then you get what you have coming, but most of the times if you are nice and act like an adult then you will normally get a break unless you are way over the line.

Remember a Police Officer has no idea what he is facing when he walks up to your door, could be his last steps on this earth, so IMHO they get a pass. They just are trying to make a living and go home to their family at the end of work, like all of us, just MHO
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Old 07-10-2009, 01:23 PM   #83
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How about responding to a "silent/panic" alarm at your residence? Or to a "hold up" alarm at a business? We do not use lights and sirens for that. We dont want the criminals to know we are coming. Half the calls I get are these types of calls.
How about when we use lights people "STOP" in the middle of the road or still don't get over to the right of the road like they're supposed to. Sometimes its less of a hassle for us to get through traffic without lights and sirens.
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Old 07-10-2009, 01:25 PM   #84
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How about when we use lights people "STOP" in the middle of the road or still don't get over to the right of the road like they're supposed to. Sometimes its less of a hassle for us to get through traffic without lights and sirens.
Oh yea...forgot about that one. I hate that....5 lines of Interstate, I'm in the left lane...lights and sirens and everyone just slows down. No one moves over in Memphis, I hate it!
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