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tho I do agree with you that it would not be worthwhile to even try to make an 8-71 blower run on an LS motor. I doubt it would take 20k, but it would be expensive due to the belt routing, fitment issues, plumbing of the whole system, etc
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![]() Drives: 2011 Camaro SS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012
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Wow...just ran across this thread, and I'm kinda surprised at what I'm reading.
First off - the blower in the OP's post is EXACTLY that - a BLOWER. They were called that because they were ALL originally designed for and used almost exclusively in Detroit 2-stroke diesels. They were called blowers because their job was to blow air into the block's air passages on those diesels, like the 6V53T - one of the most common engines these blowers originally came off of. When used in the context of a gasoline motor like in the picture above, they become a supercharger. They are not as inefficient as most of you are saying in here. If they were so inefficient - why don't Top Fuel cars use Prochargers??? I actually HAVE an 8-71 blower sitting on top of my 502" BBC in my 1969 SS Chevelle. She is street driven, street tires, full exhaust, pump gas, and has run a best of 9.29 @ 138 up here at altitude. That's like mid-8's down at sea level. That's driven to the track on street tires, on pump gas, straight through tech, into the staging lines, and blasting off a low 9-sec ET. Yes, they are MT Street ET tires. Additionally, you can get a complete setup like what you are seeing for HALF of the cost of a comparable supercharger that will put out the same amount of power. And sorry - but you guys that think this wouldn't look right on a 5th Gen Camaro...well, I don't think ANY car (well, almost) would look bad with a big 'ole 8-71 sticking up through the hood. I think a 5th Gen would look utterly AMAZING with an old-school blower. Then there's all the stuff that you guys are saying about the electronics. You're so dead wrong. All the sensors, electronics, everything - will work except for ONE...the Mass Airflow Sensor. But that's easy to get around by anyone with a little tuning experience to convert the car using HP Tuners or EFI Live to a speed-density system and tune out the MAF sensor altogether. The surging you sometimes see/hear on a car with a blower/carb setup is caused by guys that don't know how to tune their carbs for a blower. You gotta adjust the air bleeds differently when they are sitting on top of a blower that's sucking air even at idle. Then there's also removing the power-valves and jetting the carbs square (the same size jet at all four corners on each carb, and running a plug in place of the power valve). There wouldn't even be any fitment issues because if you run a long-snout blower, you'd clear the stock serpentine drive on the LS3/L99. There is PLENTY of room from the front of the timing cover to the radiator fans. Cutting the hood - well, I wouldn't cut a stock steel hood - I'd just get a fiberglass hood from Harwood and cut it out for the blower and injection hat. You would hafta cut into the cowl on a 5th Gen, and you would lose the passenger-side windshield wiper - but guys that run the Holley EFI Tunnel Ram on their Camaro's gotta do the same thing. Of course, you gotta build a motor for a blower if you wanna do it right - you will need to have a fully forged rotating assembly to be safe, and you'd need some serious seat pressure on the valves with new springs. Cam has to be for a blower motor, exhaust up to par, etc. But these are all things that you'd hafta do for ANY forced induction setup if you wanna do it right and want the motor to live at boost levels above 5-6 psi. Sorry if this post pisses some of you guys off - but the majority of you are dead wrong. And besides, if the OP wants to dream a little - why kick the guy down? OP - if you still wanna know how to do this, PM me, and I'll be happy to tell you exactly how to do it, and what you will need. And it won't cost you anywhere near as much as getting a F1 Procharger or twin turbo setup. BLESSINGS! Sam
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