When Was The Last Time You Worked Out At The Gym

[kevint]

Originally Posted by kalimus

It sucks being an ectomorph, but if you can't put on weight, you're not trying hard enough. Most ectomorphs don't realize how much they have to eat, and still try to eat healthy the whole time... that's probably not going to cut it for you. Getting a mass gainer will be a start. Other suggestions:

Peanut butter
Pizza
Burger King (whopper with cheese!)
Mc'Donalds (mcmuffin breakfast!)
Fattier meats (pork, 80/20 beef, etc)
Eat 6 meals (not 3 meals and 3 snacks).

Creatine will help you gain water weight, but not a lot of additional mass. If you want mass, spend that money on food. You truly might have to eat some "junk food" to get your weight up. And if you gain some fat, so what? You're an ectomorph. That will come right back off as soon as you tone it back <jealous>

Listen to this man. Nobody gets big or *really* strong (my preferred term) by eating clean. Proof: olympic weightlifters, powerlifters, strongman competitors. The last three times I PR'ed my deadlift (500, 505, 510) were on days after I had Taco Bell for dinner.

[kalimus]

Originally Posted by kevint

Listen to this man. Nobody gets big or *really* strong (my preferred term) by eating clean. Proof: olympic weightlifters, powerlifters, strongman competitors. The last three times I PR'ed my deadlift (500, 505, 510) were on days after I had Taco Bell for dinner.

Haha, I'd like to disclaimer that just a little bit by saying that it's NOT ok to eat like crap all the time

The reason you have to eat some of that other food, is that clean eating is very very filling, with very few calories (in comparison). You should still eat a lot of your staple foods, but indulge more than normal. Weight gainers can definitely help... but all they are is calories in a bottle. You can get those calories other ways.

If you could eat completely clean, and manage to eat enough, it won't be any different than eating some crap. But like I said, the problem is that clean calories are generally very filling. If you don't believe me, eat 2 cups of brown rice and 8oz of chicken (for about 650 calories total). Later, go eat a double whopper and fries (for about 1400 calories). Tell me which one was easier to eat

[Texas2SS]

Finally got back into the gym on the 5th of this month after being off since September ( I moved Sept. 8 to help family and was crazy hectic). Weighed myself on the 5th (185 lbs) which was down from my usual 225.

Well I finally stepped on the scale tonight to see 196. Nothing to smile at but I'll take 11lbs anytime its given. Time to start pushing a little harder to reach my March 1st goal of 210.

[Dznts]

Originally Posted by Texas2SS

Finally got back into the gym on the 5th of this month after being off since September ( I moved Sept. 8 to help family and was crazy hectic). Weighed myself on the 5th (185 lbs) which was down from my usual 225.

Well I finally stepped on the scale tonight to see 196. Nothing to smile at but I'll take 11lbs anytime its given. Time to start pushing a little harder to reach my March 1st goal of 210.

eat, eat, eat! You will hit that 210 goal easily!

[kalimus]

Originally Posted by Texas2SS

Finally got back into the gym on the 5th of this month after being off since September ( I moved Sept. 8 to help family and was crazy hectic). Weighed myself on the 5th (185 lbs) which was down from my usual 225.

Well I finally stepped on the scale tonight to see 196. Nothing to smile at but I'll take 11lbs anytime its given. Time to start pushing a little harder to reach my March 1st goal of 210.

If your plan is to shoot up 15 pounds in a month... I warn you that the majority of that is probably going to be fat...

[Dznts]

Or water weight

[kevint]

or a 15 pound dumbbell in your hand

[Bad@ssCamaro]

Originally Posted by kalimus

It sucks being an ectomorph, but if you can't put on weight, you're not trying hard enough. Most ectomorphs don't realize how much they have to eat, and still try to eat healthy the whole time... that's probably not going to cut it for you. Getting a mass gainer will be a start. Other suggestions:

Peanut butter
Pizza
Burger King (whopper with cheese!)
Mc'Donalds (mcmuffin breakfast!)
Fattier meats (pork, 80/20 beef, etc)
Eat 6 meals (not 3 meals and 3 snacks).

Creatine will help you gain water weight, but not a lot of additional mass. If you want mass, spend that money on food. You truly might have to eat some "junk food" to get your weight up. And if you gain some fat, so what? You're an ectomorph. That will come right back off as soon as you tone it back <jealous>

@TJ91:
I like to consider myself a former ectomorph as I'm now at 220 lbs and 6'3". When I was 18, I weighed in at 165 @ 6'1". The diet kalimus recommended is what I used all through my twenties along with protein shakes to help put on weight. Another simple thing I discovered one summer when I was 18 is drinking copious amounts of water - I put on ten pounds in two months just making that only change.

I started working out at the gym after that because l didn't feel as self-concious about my "thinness". I became vigilant with going to the gym and had good friends to keep me motivated. So don't worry so much about fat content, eat to your hearts content but still hit the gym hard and you should see results over time. It won't happen fast but it will happen. Good luck in your quest...

[Texas2SS]

Originally Posted by kalimus

If your plan is to shoot up 15 pounds in a month... I warn you that the majority of that is probably going to be fat...

I usually walk around at 220-225 lbs. Regaining your old weight is ALOT easier then gaining new weight.

[CFD]

Originally Posted by kalimus

If your plan is to shoot up 15 pounds in a month... I warn you that the majority of that is probably going to be fat...

Putting on 15lbs of pure muscle is aot more difficult than some may think. If it was easy everyone in the gym would be huge. It takes hard work, proper nutrition an much time. Sometimes with beginners rapid muscle gains are possible but usuly short lived.

[Dznts]

Originally Posted by CFD

Putting on 15lbs of pure muscle is aot more difficult than some may think. If it was easy everyone in the gym would be huge. It takes hard work, proper nutrition an much time. Sometimes with beginners rapid muscle gains are possible but usuly short lived.

[WheelmanSS]

Originally Posted by kevint

Listen to this man. Nobody gets big or *really* strong (my preferred term) by eating clean. Proof: olympic weightlifters, powerlifters, strongman competitors. The last three times I PR'ed my deadlift (500, 505, 510) were on days after I had Taco Bell for dinner.

Sorry, but I have to disagree with you here, big time. A + B does not = C in your example. That is not sustainable.

To put on weight properly, it is not as simple as just cramming processed food down your gullet as fast as possible. Does it get the job done of putting on weight? Sure. It will also create health problems and put you in the grave sooner.

There are plenty of high-calorie foods with positive health impacts. You can tailor a high-calorie intake plan with an aggressive workout plan if you want to see substantial results.

I can PR my dead after a meal of T-bell also... But wanna know what happens if I try to PR my sprint, or go 3-5 rounds of sparring on a meal of T-bell? Come on.

For those truly interested in finding a great eating plan that works during your on and off season of training, I recommend reading "Nutrition Periodization for Athletes" by Bob Seebohar. He covers nutrition for all types of athletes, all types of performance, and he gives you a great guide to designing a diet for your goals.

[kalimus]

Originally Posted by CFD

Putting on 15lbs of pure muscle is aot more difficult than some may think. If it was easy everyone in the gym would be huge. It takes hard work, proper nutrition an much time. Sometimes with beginners rapid muscle gains are possible but usuly short lived.

That's why you're not pro until you have teh RHOIDS

[Dznts]

Originally Posted by kalimus

That's why you're not pro until you have teh RHOIDS