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Old 06-14-2009, 02:07 AM   #57
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I feel the same way with GMs.
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Old 06-14-2009, 04:14 AM   #58
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I understand what is going on and why they are making these moves. Am I allowed to be upset about it?



It is the future being forced on me, and I don't have to like it. This is not market driven, it is govt driven. I can understand Chevy or Buick offering a FWD crossover, but Cadillac is supposed to compete with BMW mid-size suv's etc, they are basically giving up on what I think made the SRX a nice combination to start with. The Lexus RX is a girl's car ONLY and now so is the SRX. I won't be buying a wrong wheel drive car anytime soon, much less anything similar to a Lexus RX. I am not saying the 3.0 DI is a bad motor, but I still don't think it is well suited to a high end crossover/SUV/whatever like the SRX.

I hope they sell the crap out of them and make a killing, I just wouldn't buy one with these changes.
How can you say the 3.0 isn't well suited to the car if you haven't experienced it yet? It is an entirely new engine so no one yet can say for sure how it will really be. And of course the new SRX is indeed market driven. As the sales numbers above show, the RX sells, the old SRX does not. The Venn Diagram of people who want a luxury crossover and people who want RWD in an CUV has a very small sliver of overlap, and the other luxury brands have those sales locked up pretty well. AWD, even if it is FWD based, is the hot selling point in the luxury CUV market now, and Caddy is going for that. I'm with you on that not being my cup of tea either, but the really good news is Caddy is making the CTS wagon for guys like us. It is win-win. One product for the mainstream buyers and one for the enthusiasts. I personally think CUVs are silly anyway. If you want to tow and haul lots of stuff, get an SUV. If you want to transport lots of people, get a van. If you want efficient utility, get a wagon. So as long as Cadillac delivers on performance with its real cars and wagons, they can do whatever the popular market demands for CUVs as far as I care.
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Old 06-14-2009, 11:28 AM   #59
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How can you say the 3.0 isn't well suited to the car if you haven't experienced it yet? It is an entirely new engine so no one yet can say for sure how it will really be. And of course the new SRX is indeed market driven. As the sales numbers above show, the RX sells, the old SRX does not. The Venn Diagram of people who want a luxury crossover and people who want RWD in an CUV has a very small sliver of overlap, and the other luxury brands have those sales locked up pretty well. AWD, even if it is FWD based, is the hot selling point in the luxury CUV market now, and Caddy is going for that. I'm with you on that not being my cup of tea either, but the really good news is Caddy is making the CTS wagon for guys like us. It is win-win. One product for the mainstream buyers and one for the enthusiasts. I personally think CUVs are silly anyway. If you want to tow and haul lots of stuff, get an SUV. If you want to transport lots of people, get a van. If you want efficient utility, get a wagon. So as long as Cadillac delivers on performance with its real cars and wagons, they can do whatever the popular market demands for CUVs as far as I care.
Well, the Lexus was just updated, the SRX is overdue, so that certainly skews the recent sales numbers. But as I said, I hope they do well with it. I will certainly give it a chance, but it doesn't sound like something I would buy anymore. I really liked the last generation SRX, and hoped they would continue in the same direction.
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Old 06-14-2009, 01:04 PM   #60
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The last year (08) was the SMALLEST yearly sales for almost 6 years for the RX. Not a one year thing for sure.

2003 92,366
2004 106,531
2005 108,775
2006 108,348
2007 103,340
2008 84,181
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Old 06-14-2009, 02:44 PM   #61
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I wonder if they will still have g8s on the lots at dealers in 1-2 years


hmm i had always Loved the g8

i think i might buy a g8 instead of the camaro
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Old 06-14-2009, 03:13 PM   #62
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I wonder if they will still have g8s on the lots at dealers in 1-2 years


hmm i had always Loved the g8

i think i might buy a g8 instead of the camaro
Most of the whole industry is gonna be used car lots now. The days of row after row are done.

It's gonna be make to order for new cars soon I think. Except for the new Put Put's from the govt, those will have row after row stacked up.

This is almost good news for G8 owners makes them more collectable.

I do agree it's a shame to have that Toyota as Pontiacs last badged vehicle. It's an insult to Pontiac owners and brand history and just is to make a buck off a cheap POS.
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Old 06-14-2009, 05:40 PM   #63
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Something tells me we haven't seen the last Holden brought over to the states...
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Old 06-14-2009, 06:08 PM   #64
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The Interiors have come a long way man. Very Nice Indeed.

I Personally am sad to see Saturn go. They FINALLY started to build Good Looking Cars and away they go. Well, My Father and I will be keeping our small part of GM History........Another one from the mind and heart of Bob Lutz! Bottom Pic is the first know father and son SKY Team.
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Well Saturn is leaving GM, but they'll still be around. Penske bought them and will sell 3 GM products for the short term. After that, it could be any combination of domestic and foreign models from different manufacturers.
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Old 06-15-2009, 02:03 PM   #66
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Well Saturn is leaving GM, but they'll still be around. Penske bought them and will sell 3 GM products for the short term. After that, it could be any combination of domestic and foreign models from different manufacturers.
Yes, that is good, especially service wise. But the SKY and Solstice have been killed with no plans of bringing them back. These are some of the best designed Roadster to ever come out of America, and they have tons of power/Torque. And they are so rare, people STILL do not even know what it is or have never even seen one......after almost 3 years.........Awesome!
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