General assessment of people on the forum

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by c_LoW29

I totally agree with keeping certain things private just sucks and at least we can agree on that

I can live with that.

[Chrisrp454]

1) yeap
2) yeap
3) F'n A "YEAP"

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

OH man... let me tell you... I HATE that rule... Our lives would be so much easier if we could post up why certain people were banned or expose the back story from some of the silly controversy that gets stirred up.

I would love to give our side of the story in response to some that love to thrash this site...

But I know why the owner prohibits it. People want to know that we will protect them even if they are at fault. A lot of times we are making an effort at being professional and following our own rules when we don't give an explanation.

But I do think it is a double edged sword. It makes us look like we are hiding something..

I can say this. It ain't gonna change...

Just to add a bit to this train of thought, as a sort of general (but not all-emcompassing) explanation as to why folks get banned in relation to sponsors ...


While it is true that members have been banned after they've brought up issues with vendors, I can't think of a single incident where it wasn't someone who had been harassing said vendor, going out of their way to slam them every chance got. That is far different from someone saying "I'm unsatisfied with product X because ... ". We welcome that sort of feedback because it helps everyone involved. But a slamfest is of no use to anyone (expect the guy who wants to hurt the sponsor)

And another there have been 'members' that have been proven to be associated with a particular vendor & do nothing but bash the competition. Alternatively, there have also been former employees doing pretty much the same thing.

And finally, there have been vendors that have intentionally violated the sponsorship rules on the site and been kicked off the site despite paying their sponsorship money and 'lining the sites pockets'. Again, as much as we'd like to name names, and say why ... we simply don't do that kind of thing.

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by ss/rs-matt

No, no I get it. Your editing is "Fair and Balanced". Strange, where have I heard that before? Sarcasm....you decide.

Thanks for the response. However, I respectfully disagree. The clip you left was not a Michael Moore video, it was a trailer from another film maker about the subject being discussed. I put that video there because in a earlier post I left short clip from a Michael Moore film which of course people said he's biased. So I gave them another source. Then the thread became a union bashing fest, which is right out of the Faux News handbook. So, I posted a news clip from a local Detroit station interviewing folks basically calling Glen Beck a fool for saying the same things. I'm sure you know he was at one point News Corps loudest voice. Well you deleted that video too. However you left all the union bashing comments which ironically came from two very respected members of C5. They made good points and so did I. Neither side was being rude or disrespectful. I even made a comment about how those threads are like fun family political discussions.
After your edit, there was only one side left and there was no point in my continuing the discussion.
Anyway, I've said my piece and I think we should just agree to disagree. I'm gonna drop it and get back to enjoying this site for what its for, the love of our Camaros. I think we can agree on that.

I'll give you the last word but I don't like the fact that you are insinuating that I removed your comments completely. Your posts were still quoted in others replies.. the video is still out there. My apologies for the mix up in who's vids were who's I'm sure I was losing the bread crumbs trail at some point. I did delete more than a few posts.

At the end of it all I should have closed that thread immediately that was my fault.

With respect to you, I don't need to agree to disagree. What I need to do is be willing to accept blame for my mistakes and not treating you completely fairly. All I can ask is for you to accept my apology.

And, yes. Maybe that's the lesson in all this... Camaro's should come first here.

[tramtwo]

Just checking...

EDIT: Nope not banned for wanting to slap some terse members.

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by tramtwo

Just checking...

EDIT: Nope not banned for wanting to slap some terse members.

Wait gimme a minute...

brb

[JusticePete]

I joined this forum back in 2007. It was much smaller. Back then I didn't know any of the moderators and didn't much care too. It wasn't important. As the forum grew I was more frequently moderated. The more frequently I was moderated, the more frustrated I became. I reached to by PM and phone calls. Tran took time to listen to my concerns. The more we all spoke the more I began to understand what they were trying to create here.

I missed Camaro5FEST I snowed in. The following year was uneventful on C5 with very few moderations as I had adjusted to the culture. I did get to Camaro5FEST II. When I arrived I found that the staff I had planned to work with (the local SCCA) bailed on us. My Dealers and the C5 moderators pitched in. It wasn't easy, but we made it work. It was that situation that brought me in close contact with most of the moderators. I know why I worked so hard. I know why my Dealers worked so hard. There is a hard core business aspect to what we were doing. The moderators are volunteers. They are not paid to run the Fest or to moderate the forums. They do it because they are 5th Gen Camaro guys.

Look around the forums on the net. You'll not find one that has as many brand-x members as Camaro5. If there is a busier model specific forum out there I haven't found it yet. People come to Camaro5 because they find it to be an online community they feel at home in. I hope that the new members and guests take the time to learn the C5 online culture and make it their own. I have no idea how long C5 will remain such a great place to be a part of, but having been on other forums I know it won't last all that long so enjoy it while you can.

Overall I am a pretty calm guy though some may disagree. There are a few thing that set me off. Lighting up the moderators is one of them. When you have invested as much time in building the C5 community, when you have volunteered hundreds and hundreds of hours to create C5FEST IV, when you have invested a fraction of the time the moderators do in C5 you will have earned the right to discuss with any moderator one on one your concerns about how they work and not before.

It goes deeper than the moderators. I have developed a great many friendships with C5 members here and abroad. There is nothing that makes me feel better than a PM, email or Sat call from one of our own serving in the military. When I was having a difficult time with my fathers health I can't tell you how much it meant to have a PM, email of phone call with prayers and offers of support. Camaro5 is my neighborhood. Because of Camaro5 I don't think there is a city I visit where I don't have friends. Not a name and avatar, a real friend and that includes a good share of the moderators.

The moderators have earned their place on C5. I appreciate what they have done and thank them for doing it well. If you can't say the same, if you don't like the culture here at C5 ,here is your hat. What's your hurry. Don't let the door slam on your backside while you leave.

Think about it. Maybe you should delete some of your posts on the forums regarding the moderators. Maybe you should thank them because as much as you say you don't like it you are still here. Be grateful I am not a moderator, because my ban hammer would be worn out and the thread locked after I closed this post.

[PalmerGA]

Question: How do we know who are Moderators on this site? Not complaining... just curious.

[Fightinfire921]

Originally Posted by PalmerGA

Question: How do we know who are Moderators on this site? Not complaining... just curious.

Moose, TAG UR IT, Dragoneye, KILLER74Z28, DGthe3, GTAHVIT, radz28, Moderator, Milk 1027, Camaro_Corvette, Mindz, The_Blur, CamaroSpike23, tribone, stieger, SSE 4 2SS, Moderator1

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by PalmerGA

Question: How do we know who are Moderators on this site? Not complaining... just curious.

If you look at GTAHVIT's post just above mine you'll see his screen name is in red. Only moderators screen names appear in red. Now if you plan to PM GTAHVIT be prepared to deal with multiple personality disorder. The most common are Tran and GTAHVIT, but then sub personalities come out like Val or Axeman.

Having said that Chris is a great guy and a good friend

[PalmerGA]

Originally Posted by Gramps69Z

Moose, TAG UR IT, Dragoneye, KILLER74Z28, DGthe3, GTAHVIT, radz28, Moderator, Milk 1027, Camaro_Corvette, Mindz, The_Blur, CamaroSpike23, tribone, stieger, SSE 4 2SS, Moderator1

I think I understand. Thanks.

[Angrybird 12]

Hey Pete, you sound like you are campaigning to be a Mod. Just joking....People like you are an asset to the forum. Thanks for a insiteful writeup.

[GaBoy25]

Group hug anyone

[PalmerGA]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

Hey Pete, you sound like you are campaigning to be a Mod. Just joking....People like you are an asset to the forum. Thanks for a insiteful writeup.

Suck up!