I don't understand Chevrolet anymore

[larietrope]

Being a long time Chevy guy with the option of puting Ford in the rear view mirror, I am confused about Chevrolet's position today concerning straight line performance.
It seems everthing Chevrolet is coming out with has more to do with cornering rather than straight line. I know, the ZL1, but it too is more a track car than a drag car.
I'm still disappointed that the automatic is not offered in the highest HP engine as Mustang does.
The 2013 Mustang offers 420 HP in the automatic, an on board system that tells you your performance, even a Christmas tree for starting acceleration,
Another cool feature is you open the door at night and the pony logo is reflected onto the ground from the bottom of the mirrow until you shut the door.
What I'm saying is Chevy seems tentative and not being as bold as Ford is on appealing ideas and performance. I'd like to see the old Chevy attitude of we're number one come back with new ideas and performance to stay on top rather than reacting to what Mustang is doing.

[FenwickHockey65]

I'm still disappointed that the automatic is not offered in the highest HP engine as Mustang does.

Umm...there's an automatic in the ZL1.

[90503]

I kinda have to defend Chevy on this one, just in general I the Camaro's are designed intentionally to be a lot more than the straight line feature, although certainly doable.

As much as I like the old days, I love all the "track features"...etc..I think its just a sign of the times as far as the driving appeal...

Not concerned over what Ford or Dodge are doing...Chevy always comes out on top in the end...not just a flash in the pan. my $.02

[heRS]

Take a look at the numbers. For all the Mustank's innovations you seem so impressed with the Camaro still blows 'em out of the water in sales. I think Chevrolet and GM are doing a good job of delivering us a great product.
If you want more hp, you can always beef it up yourself. They are giving you a solid platform to start from.

[AZCamaroFan]

New ideas for performance?

what if they put in IRS, and Magnetic ride control.


oh wait...

[The_Blur]

The Camaro was originally referred to as the "Hugger" because it hugged the road when cornering. It's tradition for this platform to be oriented toward track performance. I don't see a problem with that, especially when personal preferences are affordably handled in the aftermarket. That brings me to the list of gimmicky things Ford showed you on a Mustang to sway you. Does a light on the door really sway you toward Ford? Put a light on your Camaro. It's not hard to fix.

You've got to keep in mind when comparing these cars that the Mustang does not use the same technology that's in the Camaro. If Ford can pay attention to these details that interest you so much, doesn't that tell you that the car is overpriced? All that money GM threw at better seats and a superior ride means something. Not everyone sees the value in it, but don't kid yourself. The Mustang is not on the Camaro's level.

[Dr Jkel]

Mustang........Like bringing a hot dog to a steak dinner....there is no comparison.

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by Dr Jkel

Mustang........Like bringing a hot dog to a steak dinner....there is no comparison.

That's very quotable.

[2001ragtop]

Originally Posted by larietrope

Being a long time Chevy guy....I am confused about Chevrolet's position today concerning straight line performance.
.....What I'm saying is Chevy seems tentative and not being as bold as Ford is on appealing ideas and performance. I'd like to see the old Chevy attitude of we're number one come back with new ideas and performance to stay on top rather than reacting to what Mustang is doing.

Ford keeps increasing the horsepower BUT they also keep increasing the pricetag. Also they are desperate because the Camaro clearly is better looking than the mustang. Camaro has been outselling the mustang month after month. THEIR ONLY HOPE is to do something with the engine, which is why they did it. (they even put that tree of lights. they are seriously desperate. that is G___)

If the camaro had a "tree of lights" with a countdown to hit the gas pedal, GM probably would see a lawsuit if a kid dies. I hope they don't ever install that.

But you are right, that they SHOULD OFFER a "dragstrip" car that is also for the street.

A Camaro PRICED the same as a ZL1, But the focus is MORE on straightline performance. Call it the LS7 Camaro.

[AZCamaroFan]

hot dogs..steaks..lol that means that..
mustangs are weiners.
wait...running out to trademark that.

[Dr Jkel]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

That's very quotable.

Yes Sir it is....man I should make a T-shirt......LOL

Originally Posted by AZCamaroFan

hot dogs..steaks..lol that means that..
mustangs are weiners.
wait...running out to trademark that.

Stealing my idears I see.

We use to say that when I was in high school when one of our buddies would bring a homely girl around.....Like bringing a Hot Dog to a Steak Dinner...........aint no comparison. lol

[TheReaper]

The original ZL1 was the drag car and the track car was the Z28. I can't understand why Chevy changed the ZL1 to a track car.

[TheReaper]

Originally Posted by AZCamaroFan

hot dogs..steaks..lol that means that..
mustangs are winners.
wait...running out to trademark that.

Fixed it for you.

[cbass]

What I'm saying is Chevy seems tentative and not being as bold as Ford is on appealing ideas and performance. I'd like to see the old Chevy attitude of we're number one come back with new ideas and performance to stay on top rather than reacting to what Mustang is doing.

I'm sorry, but what the hell are you takling about? Not as bold? They built the 5th generation camaro off a concept car and came out with 426 hp and 24 mpg. The v6 version got 300 something horsepower with 30 mpg. The ZL1 gets a magnetic ride suspension and supercharger. This promoted Ford to increase their v6 mustang horsepower by 100, their v8 mustang horsepower by 100, and now bump the GT500's horsepower by a similar number. Do you think Ford would have ever come out with a 400+ coyote engine without the camaro? So who's being bold here?

Chevy sells other cars than the camaro and they can't get into the vette's market share. That and the camaro is competitive. Yes, the mustang is a fast car but so is the camaro and it's close. They are probably focusing their efforts on the next generation.