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Old 03-16-2012, 01:01 AM   #1
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2013 Shelby GT500 Pricing Out

List MSRP is: $54,200. BUT, that's where the raping begins. I built the car I would want, with Recaros, Nav, Track Pack and it's all the way up to 64K with desination charege. Add in tax and that's almost 70K. YIKES!

I will say this, Ford does offer you options most ZL1 owners would want, like a real NAV, and Recaros...it's the extra cost to get the better suspension that really sucks. Ford makes you pay for the right set up as an extra, which is definitely advantage Chevy.

I feel like both cars make buyers fork over huge dollars and accept from very big compromises.

Personally, knowing how much both cars will depreciate once the re-designs happen and both cars become lighter and better, you have to have pin money to burn on either car. Love both cars, but just can't justify the price for either right now.
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Old 03-16-2012, 01:03 AM   #2
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List MSRP is: $54,200. BUT, that's where the raping begins. I built the car I would want, with Recaros, Nav, Track Pack and it's all the way up to 64K with desination charege. Add in tax and that's almost 70K. YIKES!

I will say this, Ford does offer you options most ZL1 owners would want, like a real NAV, and Recaros...it's the extra cost to get the better suspension that really sucks. Ford makes you pay for the right set up as an extra, which is definitely advantage Chevy.

I feel like both cars make buyers fork over huge dollars and accept from very big compromises.

Personally, knowing how much both cars will depreciate once the re-designs happen and both cars become lighter and better, you have to have pin money to burn on either car. Love both cars, but just can't justify the price for either right now.
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Old 03-16-2012, 01:05 AM   #3
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Old 03-16-2012, 01:29 AM   #4
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List MSRP is: $54,200. BUT, that's where the raping begins. I built the car I would want, with Recaros, Nav, Track Pack and it's all the way up to 64K with desination charege. Add in tax and that's almost 70K. YIKES!

I will say this, Ford does offer you options most ZL1 owners would want, like a real NAV, and Recaros...it's the extra cost to get the better suspension that really sucks. Ford makes you pay for the right set up as an extra, which is definitely advantage Chevy.

I feel like both cars make buyers fork over huge dollars and accept from very big compromises.

Personally, knowing how much both cars will depreciate once the re-designs happen and both cars become lighter and better, you have to have pin money to burn on either car. Love both cars, but just can't justify the price for either right now.

yeah but that nav is horribly overpiced and should not be purchased. I could litterly build a high end complete system with nav that sounds twice as good as the factory crap for less money than just the nav unit. the recaro's are not a have to have option either. they are good for the track but dailing driving I would rather have he factory power seats.
the pricing is very competivie in my eye's. both cars have have there strenghts but I don't see how you could complain about the price of the base car.

if it does end up avoding the GG that is $1300-$2600 back in your pocket.

all and all I give it to ford on this car if it does hook up. every other generation GT500 has had issues. brake fade,heat soak, traction problems, 155 limiter. I want to see some tests on the braking some of the reviewers don't like the boss brakes. I have never driven them.

if it backs up the 3.7 0-60 11.7 1/4 mile 202 top speed and laps well 60k is a good price. it will take a Z06 to best it and they are not 60k.

that being said the ZL-1 is cheaper in my eye's as I would have to have the performance pack and track pack.

all and all I think they are both f'ing sweet. one thing I have always noticed with ford fans and the current GT500 is there is always but to anthing they say about the car. you point out a flaw and well that can be modded. with this generation that may not be the case.
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Old 03-16-2012, 01:29 AM   #5
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The cars may get smaller and lighter, but I don't think they will pack such big power as they do now.
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Yep, 65,715 usd+ tax,etc. 70K.
Can we build the ZL1 online...?
Edit, just did. Optioned up except auto and car covers was 58,845
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Wait....limited slip is NOT standard?
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I was expecting a higher base price. It's amazing considering the power numbers cars are putting out today. If you told me 5 years ago that you could buy a brand new 650 hp car for $55K, I'd say you are crazy. Even 580 hp would surprise me.
Let's see how well the GT500 can get the power to the ground now. Bring on the ZL1 vs. GT500 tests!!!
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I think Ford's smart to let people buy a GT500 "bare bones" (so to speak) if they want to. You can have a 650-hp car for cheaper than the ZL1, but if you want a true road car with all the bells and whistles, that's available too.

As it's been stated, nav is a complete ripoff on Ford vehicles. You can install an aftermarket nav with an in-the-console setup at a much cheaper price. I believe Ford wanted 2k for nav back when I built my Mustang.
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Old 03-16-2012, 02:31 AM   #11
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Yep, 65,715 usd+ tax,etc. 70K.
Can we build the ZL1 online...?
Edit, just did. Optioned up except auto and car covers was 58,845
Where is the 650hp option on the Z as well as others options not found on it like NAV, Recaro's, glass roof, ect so that's not an intelligent argument because the Vette, and 911 are no different. The ZL1 is marketed as a one size fits all car which is cool and all but you can put down another car for giving the customer a choice of options to suit their driving needs and style.

Its just like a 911 or other european performance cars you can have it mild (no frills) for cheap and wild for ridiculous money.

What if the base model beats the ZL1 on a road course? I say this because it now has the same good year G2's that the ZL1 has but has less then 1/2 of contact patch and the fact that they used the Boss to go head to head and not the 2012 GT500 PP that has never been beat by a Boss.

All this will be settled in a month or so and hopefully I will have the winner parked in my garage. I'm leaning towards the ZL1 but the little boy inside me doesn't know if I can handle getting beat by the new GT500 when I take it to the strip or run into one on elsewhere.

If this post is inappropriate please let me know and I will edit it vs suspending me....Its just how I feel because I don't plan on racing either car at a road course because it costs a lot more and the $15 wednesday nights at the local 1/4 is a lot easier on the pocket book vs expensive track days that eat up brakes, tires, burn more more fuel getting their and racing, higher entrance fee you get the picture.

I will most likely getting the base model of each but the NAV on the GT500 is tempting as well as the alcantara package on the ZL1. Both will be getting the cheapest set track only rims and drag radials and gonna beat the crap out of it and try to be one of the quickest stock powered (to keep warranty) powered ZL1 or GT500. I may hold off on the DR's for a bit because real world test haven't been done yet and because Ford said that their launch control delivered the same acceleration times with slicks and stock tires after heating them up.
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Where is the 650hp option on the Z as well as others options not found on it like NAV, Recaro's, glass roof, ect so that's not an intelligent argument because the Vette, and 911 are no different The ZL1 is marketed as a one size fits all car which is cool and all but you can get down on another car for giving the customer a choice of options to suit their driving needs and style.

Its just like a 911 or other european performance cars you can have it mild for cheap and wild for ridiculous money.

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I never meant that anything was wrong at all. Killer car for 65K. I think optioned up similar like I did is a good comparo. I optioned the sunroof on the ZL1, rims on both, paint on both, stereo,etc.
I think base-base would be a good magazine comparison, but then every Ford Fan would whine about the lack of track pack,etc.
I think the GT500 has the win in the bag. I'm not sure how Al O. Figures the ZL1 can beat the Stang to 60. Acceleration is going to be the Stang, all the way. All the way to 200mph too. Corners will favor the ZL1, but I don't think the same amount as the acceleration will favor the GT500.
I hope that Ram-air hood test car spotted last fall is something better than the current ZL1.
Unless of course you are like me and you like the looks of the Camaro better. Then, who cares. The thumbs up from all the kids on the block constantly reminds me why I bought what I did.
You want a crazy fast car that is at the pinnacle of the now... Buy the N/A F12 with 740hp! ( no blower or turbo)There will always be a faster car I guess.
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Old 03-16-2012, 03:31 AM   #14
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The cars may get smaller and lighter, but I don't think they will pack such big power as they do now.
Chevy and Ford will have to deal with CAFE regulations in 2015 and that may be the end of BIG HORSEPOWER cars. Personally, one should choose the ZL1, The GT500, or New Viper and call it a day cuz this is probably as good as it's going to get in Factory trim.
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