GM to drop Pontiac

[Hylton]

Originally Posted by UCF w00t

Reading between the lines.... G8 = new impala? Makes complete sense. Sorry, I just really don't think the impala looks good... at all.

Big time! Especially if they decide to move production to Oshawa.

[UCF w00t]

very interesting catch there.

[fdjizm]

i really think they should have stopped making the grand prix over and over and over... where's the creativity? all they did was rebadge for years.

[ZeeTwentyFour]

Originally Posted by dodson914

Man, this is going to make me really have to think hard about trading in the G8 for the Camaro. I am getting the Camaro either way but now I might want to hold onto the G8 as well. Ugh...

do it!

[ZeeTwentyFour]

Originally Posted by UCF w00t

very interesting catch there.

I guess I should also include this

"Of course, one other question is the CTS, CTS-V, CTS Coupe, CTS Sport Wagon considered one nameplate of 4? I'd think one, but knowing GM they might think that's 4." -zete, GM Inside News forum

[Camaro_Corvette]

Originally Posted by GOLDDOG

They are 100% gone. Time to make the G8 the new impala especially since they were adding the V6 to the G8 this year.

Boy I hope the G8 makes it in some way shape or form. That car looks awesome!

[ZeeTwentyFour]

Originally Posted by camaro_corvette

Boy I hope the G8 makes it in some way shape or form. That car looks awesome!

as do I. The camaro is going to need a stable mate in order to survive more then a couple years.

[3 SS's]

Originally Posted by dodson914

Don't flame me for this but isn't this one of the problems GM has right now is too many cars that are too similar or the exact same badged under another brand?

yep...

Originally Posted by Hylton

There is no reason to go forward with anything more than Chevrolet, Buick and Cadillac.

yep again...

Originally Posted by irpq11

Gov. owning that much stock in a company?

[IROCanSS]

Originally Posted by ZeeTwentyFour

Then you would love this from the GMI thread.

"There is a problem with that statement, though. Henderson also stated that there would be 34 nameplates. We all did guesstimates around the 31 nameplates, but 34 is more than that. If you wipe out Saab, Saturn, and Pontiac you're down below 34.
* Chevrolet
1. Aveo
2. Cruze/Cobalt
3. Malibu
4. Volt (this is coming so I left it in)
5. Impala
6. Camaro
7. Corvette
8. HHR/Orlando
9. Equinox
10. Traverse
11. Some minivan
12. Colorado
13. Silverado
14. Avalanche
15. Tahoe
16. Suburban
17. Express
* GMC
1. Terrain
2. Acadia
3. Canyon
4. Sierra
5. Yukon
6. Envoy
7. Savana
* Buick
1. Enclave
2. Regal
3. Lacrosse
4. Lucerne
* Cadillac
1. CTS
2. DTS
3. SRX
4. Escalade


That makes 32.
hat leaves the following decent cars as orphans.

1. Vue
2. Astra
3. Sky
4. Vibe
5. Solstice
6. G8
" -zete, Gm Inside News forum

I think you may be wrong on those being the 34. Still too many "competing" brands with in a brand...

Do we really need:

Well anything from GMC?
an Avalanche, Yukon, Tahoe, Suburban and Escalade?
an SRX.... bad idea.
Lacrosse and Lucerne
HHR, Terrain, Envoy, Equniox, Traverse and Enclave

GM NEEDS to make it simple. There are plenty of choices out there even if they went do to like 15:

Aveo
Cruze
Volt
Malibu
Impala
Camaro
Corvette
Minivan (Uplander)
Crossover (HHR, Equinox, Traverse...etc)
Colorado
Silverado
Tahoe or Suburban
Van
CTS
STS

Thats plenty... tell me something I missed that can't be filled by something on my list? You can get a Tahoe equally as nice as an Escalade... but ohhhh its not a Cadillac.. SO WHAT! You don't need 4 or 5 different types of crossovers. You don't need a huge vehicle like the Suburban. Make a 3/4 ton Tahoe for towing big boats and youre good to go.

Buick and GMC's heads should be on the chopping block next. GM is on some what the right track to scale down. I don't think they are cutting enough but baby steps I guess.

Don't flame me but if you all want to see GM make it, lots of changes have to be made. People have to lose jobs, cars have to get nixed...

[Camaro Lives On]

Originally Posted by jrhaus76

I think you may be wrong on those being the 34. Still too many "competing" brands with in a brand...

Do we really need:

Well anything from GMC?
an Avalanche, Yukon, Tahoe, Suburban and Escalade?
an SRX.... bad idea.
Lacrosse and Lucerne
HHR, Terrain, Envoy, Equniox, Traverse and Enclave

GM NEEDS to make it simple. There are plenty of choices out there even if they went do to like 15:

Aveo
Cruze
Volt
Malibu
Impala
Camaro
Corvette
Minivan (Uplander)
Crossover (HHR, Equinox, Traverse...etc)
Colorado
Silverado
Tahoe or Suburban
Van
CTS
STS

Thats plenty... tell me something I missed that can't be filled by something on my list? You can get a Tahoe equally as nice as an Escalade... but ohhhh its not a Cadillac.. SO WHAT! You don't need 4 or 5 different types of crossovers. You don't need a huge vehicle like the Suburban. Make a 3/4 ton Tahoe for towing big boats and youre good to go.

Buick and GMC's heads should be on the chopping block next. GM is on some what the right track to scale down. I don't think they are cutting enough but baby steps I guess.

Don't flame me but if you all want to see GM make it, lots of changes have to be made. People have to lose jobs, cars have to get nixed...

Isnt the Envoy dead?

[djm96z28]

So much for the new Solstice coupe...

[Captain Awesome]

You guys have to understand that the country we live in has geography and weather that necessitates some of the vehicles that you want killed off. This is a big problem for the environmentalists who all live in California...

Just because the temperature never gets below 60 degrees year round where they live, they think SUVs and trucks are "wasteful".

Up here in the Northeast, there is a real need for SUVs, and I mean a real SUV with ground clearance and 4WD, not some wimpy crossover with front wheel drive and AWD part time to the rear wheels.

The need exists for these vehicles and the Trailblazer/Envoy should be retained in some form. Sure, you can get a pickup with similar capability but you can't fit a family in a pickup, and it's not the same.
I don't know what I'm going to drive in the winter in the coming years.

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by ZeeTwentyFour

Then you would love this from the GMI thread.

"There is a problem with that statement, though. Henderson also stated that there would be 34 nameplates. We all did guesstimates around the 31 nameplates, but 34 is more than that. If you wipe out Saab, Saturn, and Pontiac you're down below 34.
* Chevrolet
1. Aveo
2. Cruze/Cobalt
3. Malibu
4. Volt (this is coming so I left it in)
5. Impala
6. Camaro
7. Corvette
8. HHR/Orlando
9. Equinox
10. Traverse
11. Some minivan
12. Colorado
13. Silverado
14. Avalanche
15. Tahoe
16. Suburban
17. Express
* GMC
1. Terrain
2. Acadia
3. Canyon
4. Sierra
5. Yukon
6. Envoy
7. Savana
* Buick
1. Enclave
2. Regal
3. Lacrosse
4. Lucerne
* Cadillac
1. CTS
2. DTS
3. SRX
4. Escalade


That makes 32.
hat leaves the following decent cars as orphans.

1. Vue
2. Astra
3. Sky
4. Vibe
5. Solstice
6. G8
" -zete, Gm Inside News forum

Based on this list, they've got to save the Solstice or Sky. I was hoping that GM would rebadge one as a Chevrolet Stingray with styling cues from the original Corvette. They also should save the G8 since it is the only other car on the Zeta platform. That would be a cost-cutting measure, and it would allow another Chevy to be built on the same platform as the Camaro.

[matt55]

Originally Posted by irpq11

Gov. owning that much stock in a company? My God, get your V8s now.

It a sad sad day !