GM already has nearly two year supply of Pontiac G3

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

I don't even understand why pontiac needs an aveo. Very few people like the aveo anyway, and (I'm shocked that I'm saying this) the Cobalt is a better car for only a little more money. The same thing will happen when buyers see a G3 and a G5 side by side.

My mistake. Its G3 Wave up here, just G3 for you, according to GM.ca/pontiac and pontiac.com

Same car, same brand ... lets tweak the name!

No, I mean it's actually called the G3 Wave both here and in Canada, only they dropped the "Wave" from the car's badging here in the US. The US sales charts still list it as "G3 Wave."

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

No, I mean it's actually called the G3 Wave both here and in Canada, only they dropped the "Wave" from the car's badging here in the US. The US sales charts still list it as "G3 Wave."

The website only says G3, though I didn't look past the main page. So what you're saying is that you can buy a G3 Wave in the US ... where nothing on the car says 'Wave'?

[UCF w00t]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

The website only says G3, though I didn't look past the main page. So what you're saying is that you can buy a G3 Wave in the US ... where nothing on the car says 'Wave'?

It's the wave of boredom that washes over you when you see this car.

[theholycow]

See also http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18524 ("What Happens To Unsold Cars?")...

I have no idea what GM is thinking with the Aveo (and now the G3 that I have never heard of before). It's a badge-engineered Daewoo Kalos. :thumbsdown: There's nothing conceptually wrong with a Daewoo, but the actual car is inferior. As mentioned above, the Cobalt is better in every way for barely any more money. What makes them think the Kalos will compete any better as a G3 than it does as an Aveo?

2009 Cobalt XFE: 25 city/30 combined/37 highway mpg -- MSRP $16,380
2009 Aveo: 27/30/34 -- $12,685
2009 G3: 27/30/34 -- $15,055
2009 G5: 25/29/35 -- $17,700

Ok, so the Aveo is actually significantly cheaper -- especially when you consider the deal you can get on a car that nobody wants. What added value do you get with the G3?

WTF, GM?

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by theholycow

See also http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18524 ("What Happens To Unsold Cars?")...

I have no idea what GM is thinking with the Aveo (and now the G3 that I have never heard of before). It's a badge-engineered Daewoo Kalos. :thumbsdown: There's nothing conceptually wrong with a Daewoo, but the actual car is inferior. As mentioned above, the Cobalt is better in every way for barely any more money. What makes them think the Kalos will compete any better as a G3 than it does as an Aveo?

2009 Cobalt XFE: 25 city/30 combined/37 highway mpg -- MSRP $16,380
2009 Aveo: 27/30/34 -- $12,685
2009 G3: 27/30/34 -- $15,055
2009 G5: 25/29/35 -- $17,700

Ok, so the Aveo is actually significantly cheaper -- especially when you consider the deal you can get on a car that nobody wants. What added value do you get with the G3?

WTF, GM?

Well, you don't have to admit that you bought an Aveo ...

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

The website only says G3, though I didn't look past the main page. So what you're saying is that you can buy a G3 Wave in the US ... where nothing on the car says 'Wave'?

Basically.

GM does a lot of things that don't make sense.

http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayS...=6&docid=53412

Sales chart's at the link...with the amazing 141 G3s sold for the month of March.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Basically.

GM does a lot of things that don't make sense.

http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayS...=6&docid=53412

Sales chart's at the link...with the amazing 141 G3s sold for the month of March.

I can normally figure out a reasonable explanation for questionable GM actions... but in this case, all I can do is

[Tomash]

They'll change the front and steering wheel once again, this time reverting to Daewoo or Chevrolet badge and transfer them back to Europe and/or Korea. They actually sell not bad here as cheap (still not as good as Toyota Yaris, though) first-cars, mostly for women.

And yeah, in case anyone wondered why GM has to beg for public money despite doing decent cars -- this, i.e. underestimating marketing and not-defining your target probably contributes a lot.

[theholycow]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Well, you don't have to admit that you bought an Aveo ...

I'd admit it if I did, but alas, my little econobox hatchback is less crappy and far more gay. The VW Rabbit is the gayest car on the market. It's a great car to drive but I fear that it sends the wrong message about me...luckily my wife doesn't care what I drive.