California Rejects To Giving Boss 302 Owners Track Keys!

[ffrcobra_65]

After seeing friends and weekend roadracers at Laguna Seca last month, kicking a$$ in their 2012 Boss, I was 1 missed test drive away from making an offer on a Laguna Seca for sticker at a Local Dealer (dealer is willing at MSRP) where I bought my GT500 this year. One sole reason I hesitated is the upcoming ZL1...now I can get the Laguna Seca outta my mind a littler easier because of this CARB crap in CA not allowing the red key tune.

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

Shouldn't they be FOR stuff like this rather than against it? What's more environmentally friendly:

1. People driving CARB legal street cars to the track, putting in a different key and running non-CARB tuned, CATTED cars

2. People trailering race cars to the track on super-duty pickups, running at the track with no cats, etc.

Errrr. . .

You have to stop THINKING rationally. Once you turn off your brain, the completely obvious "option #3" becomes readily apparent:

3. Make racing illegal. If you cannot get the public to vote for this option, then find some way to get a court to say it is illegal. If you shop around all the courts and can't find one corrupt enough to play along, then continue to put it on a ballot referendum every chance you get until you can convince enough sheep to vote for it with scare tactics (i.e. "Racing KILLS! Vote YES on Prop 666!!!"). If that doesn't work you can always get some pencil necked ex-hippie beaurocrat to regulate racing so tightly that it becomes impossible to afford to race or own a track. This last option is insidious because the regulatory arm of the government cannot be "fired", because they are not elected. If you try and close their agencies and hence put a stop to them, the media arm steps in and tells everyone that you want everyone to breathe smog and drink polluted water and we will all die if you get your way.

[Milk 1027]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

The car works perfectly fine and performs quite impressively without the red key. The point of the red key is to offer the possibility of a balls out track car without it being completely illegal to drive on the street (meaning it MUST be trailered to the track, legally). What works for the street isn't typically what works for the track, so they built a car that can be docile and drivable on the street, but you can adjust the suspension, run the red key and tear up the track then switch back and drive it home. The funny thing is, the red key might still be emissions compliant, but it's still bad in Cali's eyes because it bumps emissions above 'stock' levels.

I'm sure you're wrong. We wouldn't be having this problem if the red key was emissions compliant.

[Wakemaker89]

That sucks for Boss owners. Is there any way they could take them out of state and get the tune? How is the inspector going to know if you dont bring the red key to the inspection?

[Mr_Draco]

Originally Posted by Wakemaker89

That sucks for Boss owners. Is there any way they could take them out of state and get the tune?

Nope.

Right now Ford isn't offering the tune at all to any dealers in any of the 50 states or Canada.

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by Milk 1027

I'm sure you're wrong. We wouldn't be having this problem if the red key was emissions compliant.

CARB's issue is that the key increases emissions, not that it increases emissions to beyond regulations specifically. They would have to test it to know if emissions were beyond regulations, which they haven't. Testing of the red key tune is not a priority to CARB because it is a third party product supplied by Ford Racing. Consumer vehicles built by automobile manufacturers are priority #1. Multiple people on the mustang forums have spoken to representatives at CARB and have been told that the keys are not being sold because they have not yet been approved by CARB, not that they have been rejected. CARB approval takes a long time for any aftermarket product, ask any of the vendors here that have gone through the process.

[ShnOmac]

Originally Posted by 05MyStangWB

.nope. just come over from time to time to see what kinda shyte they are talking. .

I would never go to a Mustang forum just to see the shyte they are talking... Just sayin

[Milk 1027]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

CARB's issue is that the key increases emissions, not that it increases emissions to beyond regulations specifically. They would have to test it to know if emissions were beyond regulations, which they haven't. Testing of the red key tune is not a priority to CARB because it is a third party product supplied by Ford Racing. Consumer vehicles built by automobile manufacturers are priority #1. Multiple people on the mustang forums have spoken to representatives at CARB and have been told that the keys are not being sold because they have not yet been approved by CARB, not that they have been rejected. CARB approval takes a long time for any aftermarket product, ask any of the vendors here that have gone through the process.

Exactly....
Ford sold a car that was not tested for emissions in both modes.

Who's fault is that?

[ShnOmac]

Originally Posted by 05MyStangWB

. Even though i stated then that I TRIED to like the Camaro but for me...it was not a good fit and the dealership / sale man were assholes. I came over here to defend my decision and stop the shyte talking..... just saying

P.S. It was one of your Camaro5 members hanging out and talking shyte on the mustang Forums that saw my post and then came back over to this site to talk badly about my decision..... what was he doing going to a mustang Forum to talk shyte??

Im a Chevy guy through and through but if its not for you then its not for you, nothing wrong with that!

As for the Camaro5 member "stalking" the mustang forums.... Face palm to them

Originally Posted by Milk 1027

Exactly....
Ford sold a car that was not tested for emissions in both modes.

Who's fault is that?

That would be a Ford Mustake....

Originally Posted by 05MyStangWB

Personally, I am not worried. We will get the Track-key soon enough. I want it because it gives me a full warrantied tune that is supposed to be equal to an all out race tune..... with a sweet sounding lopey idle. That in itself is worth the $302 for the tune...

Not going to lie... I hope it all works out for yall, you spent a lot of money and are being F'd with. Ford is in the wrong with this one! I would be saying the same thing if it was the Camaro so no need to go there

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by Milk 1027

Exactly....
Ford sold a car that was not tested for emissions in both modes.

Who's fault is that?

I would have to say it's the fault of whomever it was that empowered themselves with the ability to halt the sale of anything without the proper legislation to do so.

[Milk 1027]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

I would have to say it's the fault of whomever it was that empowered themselves with the ability to halt the sale of anything without the proper legislation to do so.

There IS proper legislation.
They're only following protocol. I don't blame people for doing their jobs (CARB)
I blame people for not doing their job (Ford)

[Rogue Leader]

CARB apparently has changed their minds:

http://jalopnik.com/5847777/californ...ustang-trackey

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by Milk 1027

There IS proper legislation.
They're only following protocol. I don't blame people for doing their jobs (CARB)
I blame people for not doing their job (Ford)

The key should have never been barred from sale by CARB considering it is advertised as, and intended for, off-road use only. Did CARB ever step in with the GMPP stage 3 for the LSJ cobalts?

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/prod...roduct_ID=1724

"The Stage 3 upgrades are meant for off-road use only and are not certified to be emissions legal. "

Nope, it's also off-road use only. The Trackey is a product sold by Ford Racing to be used on the track, not a factory preloaded, "mode" as you continually make it out to be. There is no, "both modes" from the factory. You have to purchase the trackey tune independently, the key simply activates the tune once you have purchased it and had it flashed onto the ecu.

Oh well, looks like they finally figured that out and the key will be available.

[porcupinekiller]

Originally Posted by Rogue Leader

CARB apparently has changed their minds:

http://jalopnik.com/5847777/californ...ustang-trackey

Just to add to that, from Ford Racing:
TracKey - Here's the Official Word
TracKey for the 2012 Boss 302 has generated a lot of buzz on the enthusiast forums. Here's the real deal:

TracKey is an aftermarket option, available exclusively through Ford & Lincoln Dealers. The TracKey option consists of two components:
1. The download of the TracKey performance software and calibration.
2. The reprogramming of the red key to enable activation of the performance calibration.
The TracKey calibration has an MSRP of $302 plus dealer installation. TracKey works with the 2012 Mustang BOSS 302 and is currently supported in the United States & Canada. The availability of TracKey will be officially announced at SEMA on November 2nd. Official TracKey information, a video and photos are available at www.trackey.ford.com.