Casey Anthony

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by Ironheadspearo

if anyone thinks she got off with no sentence then try to imagine how her life will be till the day she dies. she will have a miserable life wether it is on free soil or prison soil. and no one knows for sure if she is actually guilty or not. no smoking gun barrel

Not sure if you know this, but she was partying it up during the 31 days she didn't report her daughter missing. Don't think she'll lose any sleep.

[Havok]

The whole trial comes down to "Prove to me with factual evidence that a murder has taken place". Exactly you can't because all that was found was bones. If you can't prove there was even a murder then you can't prove 3 of the 7 charges (the ones she was found guilty). Some people in this thread would make some crappy jurors since they can't seem to separate their personal feelings from the evidence that was presented.

Finding chloroform on the computer doesn't mean there was a murder
Her laughing at the trial doesn't mean she committed a murder
Her not reporting a child missing does not mean there was a murder

Prove to me beyond a reasonable doubt that there was a murder rather than the kid jumping in the water and dying. You can't therefore case close not guilty of murder. Remember innocent until proven guilty. Turn off Nancy Grace.

If the police did their damn job the first time around then the verdict would have been different so don't blame the jury or anyone else blame the police that were told of her body twice before they finally went down on the third time.

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by Havok

The whole trial comes down to "Prove to me with factual evidence that a murder has taken place". Exactly you can't because all that was found was bones. If you can't prove there was even a murder then you can't prove 3 of the 7 charges (the ones she was found guilty). Some people in this thread would make some crappy jurors since they can't seem to separate their personal feelings from the evidence that was presented.

Finding chloroform on the computer doesn't mean there was a murder
Her laughing at the trial doesn't mean she committed a murder
Her not reporting a child missing does not mean there was a murder

Prove to me beyond a reasonable doubt that there was a murder rather than the kid jumping in the water and dying. You can't therefore case close not guilty of murder. Remember innocent until proven guilty. Turn off Nancy Grace.

If the police did their damn job the first time around then the verdict would have been different so don't blame the jury or anyone else blame the police that were told of her body twice before they finally went down on the third time.

Just some FYI for you, the body was found in a bag, with duct tape on the face of the skull. Don't think the kid jumped in a bag, in the water, oh, and put duct tape on her mouth...

[Switchin2Chevy]

Originally Posted by Havok

The whole trial comes down to "Prove to me with factual evidence that a murder has taken place". Exactly you can't because all that was found was bones. If you can't prove there was even a murder then you can't prove 3 of the 7 charges (the ones she was found guilty). Some people in this thread would make some crappy jurors since they can't seem to separate their personal feelings from the evidence that was presented.

Finding chloroform on the computer doesn't mean there was a murder
Her laughing at the trial doesn't mean she committed a murder
Her not reporting a child missing does not mean there was a murder

Prove to me beyond a reasonable doubt that there was a murder rather than the kid jumping in the water and dying. You can't therefore case close not guilty of murder. Remember innocent until proven guilty. Turn off Nancy Grace.

If the police did their damn job the first time around then the verdict would have been different so don't blame the jury or anyone else blame the police that were told of her body twice before they finally went down on the third time.

Thank you Havok. Well said. I think this would've gone down differently if the cops in the area didn't just brush it off when a utility worker calls and says "Hey. i think I've found a body. come take a look".

[Havok]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

Just some FYI for you, the body was found in a bag, with duct tape on the face of the skull. Don't think the kid jumped in a bag, in the water, oh, and put duct tape on her mouth...

Girl could have drown person threw duct tape on the face and threw it in a bag then disposed the body. Duct tape on the body doesn't mean there was a murder unless you can link the cause of death to suffocation.

Originally Posted by SlingShot

Your wrong, it's due to the lack of evidence that links her to the death. If she did not lie and mislead the police, and they found the body in the first part of summer the outcome would have been different.

I still think the jury dropped the ball, and did not look at the big picture.

They could have. Some handy man found the body 3 times, before the police finally went out there to investigate.

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by Havok

Girl could have drown person threw duct tape on the face and threw it in a bag then disposed the body.




They could have. Some handy man found the body 3 times, before the police finally went out there to investigate.

lol, wtf? are you really reading what you are typing? why would anyone put duct tape on a dead body?

[Havok]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

lol, wtf? are you really reading what you are typing? why would anyone put duct tape on a dead body?

Hows does that prove that there was a murder though.

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by Havok

Hows does that prove that there was a murder though.

well, there's a dead body, with duct tape on the mouth? Which would lead to her being alive when the duct tape was applied...

[Havok]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

well, there's a dead body, with duct tape on the mouth? Which would lead to her being alive when the duct tape was applied...

Which can also be applied after the person was dead. Like I said duct tape doesn't prove there was a death.

[Switchin2Chevy]

True the child could've drowned unknowigly. Making it an accident. It's very likely (not saying it actually happened) that the child drowned at some point and maybe her mother found out and freaked and instead of owning up to it, when partying and lied all over town. But was the state's burden to prove her guilty. A jury of Casey Anthony's peers didn't think that the stated proved this. I personally think that she did it but that's me. The state made their decision and that's it unfortunately. No double jeopardy...

[28.]

Originally Posted by Havok

Which can also be applied after the person was dead. Like I said duct tape doesn't prove there was a death.

Axactly.. Only proves a Home Depot was near-by right... Lol... Lighten up guys.. It's done.. All this bickering isn't gonna bring that poor kid back.. Karma is a bitch and she'll get hers if she is guilty.. Just sayin..

[Banshee]

Originally Posted by G-Oil Guy

Please remember, the jury isn't subjected to everything the people outside of the trial is.

Normal people following the case, or ANY high profile case for that matter, are subjected to countless news and opinion broadcasts (Nancy frigging Grace anyone?) who have no responsibility to report honestly or thoroughly (this is more aimed at the opinion pieces than the simple facts of the matter news pieces).

As such, many MANY of us jump to conclusions.

This is why there is jury sequestering. In the hope of giving everyone a fair shot, the Jury is charged with only considering what is shown before them. Now if the prosecution or the defense get certain items excluded it's because they prepared better legal arguments or had case law on their side.

As a reminder to anyone who is finding fault with the system, please remember these rules have been put in place over hundreds of year of case law and should you ever wind up in a position where you are on the defense side, you will fight your damn-dest to make sure the playing field is as even as possible.

Remember these two things: Innocent until proven guilty and the quote "tis better that 100 guilty men go free than an innocent man be convicted". A lot of people don't really believe these things any more, but I firmly do.


As for the statement earlier about the possibility of the family suing to prevent her from benefiting from a book deal; I don't think they have any legal standing to do so. It's not like the OJ case where the victim was a third party and the family had a legitimate argument.

Who would file for wrongful death in this case with standing? The victim was her own daughter, I don't remember seeing anything about the father and I don't believe the grandparents or extended family would have any basis for preventing it. Just the rules of law.

Best comment of this thread...

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by Havok

Which can also be applied after the person was dead. Like I said duct tape doesn't prove there was a death.

you've got it wrong. the investigators already determined that it was a homicide. it was the prosecutors job to link casey to the murder.

[1o.f00t.570rk]

Originally Posted by CC Performance

And your point is? Love the way you use "you" as in you think your above it all... Guess what your even worse, you use this thread as a platform to preach... thats pretty selfish considering what this thread is about.... You are just as bad as the people you are putting down.

Its disgusting

My point is that people have lost their sense of perspective. We have a tragedy that got too much attention, when there are bigger tragedies that people can actually do something about which are ignored.

I am "above it all" only because I was not involved in this case in way, don't have a stake in it emotionally or otherwise, and I stand against the culture which is represented by Casey Anthony's actions.

I already do support charities that are working to help in many countries all over the world, some charities being secular and some not.

You seem to have missed the part where I lay the blame on "we as a society". I am part of that society, and I have not done all I can to try and impact it for the better. I am as much to blame as part of society as anyone else.

That said, a society is not an entity in and of itself, but a reflection of the individuals who are members of it. It's then on the individual level that change has to occur before it is reflected in society.

My "preaching" is definitely trying to take this tragedy and use the foothold it has created to bring a sense of perspective back to the individual level, so that people who could not and cannot do anything about this case can still make a difference to prevent things like this from happening again. They can redirect the negative energy they've built up to do something positive, instead of stewing and wishing bad things at Casey Anthony.

If that is being offensive and selfish, then I am guilty as charged. I'm sorry and I'll stop posting.