The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[macwest]

While I am not a ford fan I am gald to see the big three in competition because it works out well for all of us. However, I suspect the cost will not be close to 40K as Ford says MSRP will be.

GM HINT HINT**** Notice the gauges on top of the dash in the BOSS. Would be benificail in the camaro

[snakekiller]

Laguna seca lap times.
2010 Shelby GT500 1:44.3
2009 BMW M3 1:42.9
2010 Audi R8 1:40.8
2012 Boss 302(regular model) 1:40.4 and 1:40.2

0-60 4.0sec(3.92sec actually)
1/4 mile 12.3 sec @ 115.8 mph
they did not test the LS model

Link:http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html

[CAPT D]

Originally Posted by SSLarry

gee..where ya been? jk



2012 FORD MUSTANG BOSS 302

TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

Gear ratios
1st 3.66
2nd 2.43
3rd 1.69
4th 1.32
5th 1.00
6th 0.65
Final drive 3.73:1

BODY
Construction Unitized welded steel body, aluminum hood
Final assembly location Flat Rock, Mich.

POWERTRAIN AND CHASSIS

ENGINE
Type High-performance 5.0-liter, four-valve Ti-VCT V8
Manufacturing location Windsor (Ontario) Engine Plant
Configuration Aluminum block and heads
Intake manifold Composite shell-welded with runner pack
Exhaust manifold Stainless steel tubular headers, quad exhaust tips
Redline 7,500 rpm
Valvetrain DOHC, four valves per cylinder, variable intake, variable camshaft timing
Valve diameter/lift (mm) Intake 37/12, exhaust 31/11
Ti-VCT operating range 50 degrees for both intake and exhaust
Pistons Forged aluminum
Connecting rods Forged steel
Ignition High-energy coil-on-plug
Bore x stroke 3.63 x 3.65-in./92.2 x 92.7-mm
Displacement 302 cu. in./4,951 cc
Compression ratio 11.0:1
Engine control system PCM
Horsepower 444
Horsepower per liter 88.8
Torque 380 lb.-ft.
Required fuel 87 octane (premium fuel recommended)
Fuel capacity 16 gallons
Fuel delivery Sequential mechanical returnless
Oil capacity 8.5 quarts with filter (10,000-mile service interval)

DRIVETRAIN

Layout Front-engine/rear-wheel-drive

TRANSMISSION

Standard Six-speed manual

2012 FORD MUSTANG BOSS 302 TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

SUSPENSION

Front Independent MacPherson strut with reverse-L lower control arm, 34.6-mm
tubular stabilizer bar, strut tower brace, manual adjustable strut damping
Rear Three-link solid axle with limited-slip differential, performance coil springs,
Panhard bar, 25-mm stabilizer bar and manual adjustable shock damping

STEERING

Type Rack-and-pinion with electric power-assisted steering (EPAS)
Ratio 15.9:1
Turning circle, curb-to-curb 39.4 ft. (est.)

BRAKES

Type Four-wheel power disc brakes with four-sensor, four-channel
anti-lock braking system (ABS), low-expansion brake hoses
Front 355-mm (14-in.) x 32-mm vented discs, four-piston Brembo™
40/44-mm fixed aluminum calipers
Rear 300-mm (11.8-in.) x 19-mm vented discs, single-piston
43-mm floating iron calipers, Performance Friction Compound pads

TIRES AND WHEELS

Standard
255/40R-19 Pirelli PZero max performance, 285/35R-19 Pirelli PZero max
performance;
19 x 9-in., 19 x 9.5-in. wide-spoke painted aluminum wheels, standard tire
mobility kit

DIMENSIONS (inches unless otherwise noted)

EXTERIOR

Wheelbase 107.1
Overall length 188.1
Overall width 73.9
Overall height 55.1
Track, front/rear 61.9/62.5

INTERIOR

Seating capacity Four
Front headroom 38.5
Front legroom 42.4
Front shoulder room 55.3
Front hip room 53.4
Rear headroom 34.7
Rear legroom 29.8
Rear shoulder room 51.6
Rear hip room 46.8

WEIGHTS AND CAPACITIES

SAE passenger volume 83.3 cu. ft.
Cargo volume 13.4 cu. ft.
Maximum towing capacity n/a

2012 FORD MUSTANG BOSS 302 TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

FUEL ECONOMY

Six-speed manual 17 mpg city/26 mpg highway

BASE CURB WEIGHT

Manual transmission 3,632 pounds
Weight distribution (front/rear) 55/45

i have a good excess im in Afghanistan lol. but thanks for filling me in on it. it looks nice but not my cup of tea.

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by snakekiller

Laguna seca lap times.
2010 Shelby GT500 1:44.3
2009 BMW M3 1:42.9
2010 Audi R8 1:40.8
2012 Boss 302(regular model) 1:40.4 and 1:40.2

0-60 4.0sec(3.92sec actually)
1/4 mile 12.3 sec @ 115.8 mph
this is not the LS model

Link:http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html

I'd take the Laguna Seca version over a gt500 any day.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

if you know the history of the Boss, you would know that it is not a straight line car, it is for a track with turns in it where driving skills and car set up come to play. Stock for stock, the Camaro can't even catch a 2011 GT around a track let alone a Boss. You'll need a good suspension set up to catch a Boss. Oh, when someone starts factoring the price of their car when comparing it to the competition, it usually shows their insecurity. I am neither a Camaro nor a Mustang fanboy, I own a supercharged version of both (aftermarket SC on the SS) but I will take a limited numper Boss over a not too special run-of-the mill Camaro any day of the week.

Well step up to the plate and sell your SS and go buy a Boss to put beside your GT500 then you have the best the blue oval has to offer

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Well step up to the plate and sell your SS and go buy a Boss to put beside your GT500 then you have the best the blue oval has to offer

No need to sell the SS, just add the Boss to the stable.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

No need to sell the SS, just add the Boss to the stable.

That is true, I think I see a older 427 Cobra in that garage also, how about that for a blue oval stable?

[CamaroFreako]

beautiful car.

[syr74]

Originally Posted by snakekiller

Laguna seca lap times.
2010 Shelby GT500 1:44.3
2009 BMW M3 1:42.9
2010 Audi R8 1:40.8
2012 Boss 302(regular model) 1:40.4 and 1:40.2

0-60 4.0sec(3.92sec actually)
1/4 mile 12.3 sec @ 115.8 mph
they did not test the LS model

Link:http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html

So what if the Boss 302 laps Laguna Seca faster than an Audi R8 and the Boss 302 Laguna Seca laps....well, Laguna Seca.....as fast as a Nissan GT-R? Is that supposed to impress me? I gotz a one-fitty shot I ain't skeered. For those paying attention, that means a regular Boss 302 is neck and neck with a standard C6 Corvette on the typical road-course and the Boss Laguna Seca will outright take a run of the mill C6 out to the woodshed and come back without it.

Hell of a feat for a torqueless, oval track wonder......wouldn't you say? Good post sk.

[caper]

Originally Posted by snakekiller

Laguna seca lap times.
2010 Shelby GT500 1:44.3
2009 BMW M3 1:42.9
2010 Audi R8 1:40.8
2012 Boss 302(regular model) 1:40.4 and 1:40.2

0-60 4.0sec(3.92sec actually)
1/4 mile 12.3 sec @ 115.8 mph
they did not test the LS model

Link:http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html

nice!! i also think the car looks good too.

[syr74]

Originally Posted by skittleoncrack

So I've been looking at specs for the new 2012 Boss 302 and I must say. I'm NOT impressed.

Horsepower: 444@7200rpm 32more than the GT
It appears to be the exact same motor with just better turning. I race "Can Tuned" 2011 5.0 all the time at the track that probably make 444hp!

It's got 18hp more than a LS3 SS and at 3631lbs its only 229lbs lighter, and factory tires are a whole 10mm wider.

Lets compare.

MSRP of my 2010 LS3 1SS: 30,945
Add my muffler delete plus tips: 150
Add K&N: 380
Add NX plus GEN-X: 1,335
Add Trinity: 600
TOTAL: 33,410

MSRP of 2012 Boss 302: 40,145
.

And for all your trouble the Boss 302 would still absolutely leave you for dead on any road-course. I guess it's all about priorities, obviously handling isn't high on your list of the same.

[OUTATIME]

While I'm not a Mustang fan by any means, this thing is pretty damn impressive for ~$40k. The numbers may not impress anyone but it's still a performance bargain and (stock for stock), it will easily beat anything in the current Camaro lineup.

That being said, I'll take my 2SS any day over something that basically LOOKS like the same generic mustang with decals and different rims to the untrained eye.

[Russo]

i like how the OP's opinion was against the Boss right from the start, and comparing it to a SS as if the SS is better, lol...

[garagelogic]

Originally Posted by 08-G35s/6MT

10 less lb-ft than the GT 5.0 ? What gives ??

Intake on the Boss uses a substantially shorter runner length, thus improving upper RPM horsepower at the expense of low-end torque. You would see the same thing happen with the LS3 if they shortened the intake runners but likely a little less due to the larger cubic-inch displacement.

This stuff is not rocket-science.