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Old 10-25-2010, 12:01 AM   #15
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I love how the first few posts on that GTO board was bashing the bike guys.

Personally if that would have been my bike he hit I would have been dragging his ass out the car.
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Old 10-25-2010, 12:31 AM   #16
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there was absolutely no counter steering........and despite what the highest rated youtube comment says DONT HIT YOUR BRAKES.
yeah, shifting weight to the front wheels is pretty much the worst thing you can do in that situation.

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Things were cool until it showed a helmet rolling away in the dirt...that was pretty graphic.
I assume it was just sitting on a bike
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Old 10-25-2010, 08:23 AM   #17
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To me it's not confirming it! He was driving by the incident after it happened and yeah he had his wipers on, but it doesn't show the road was wet.

Video shows the road was dry. Even if it was wet thats not an excuse to lose control of your car!
Glad you can determine the conditions of the road from your computer chair.

Everybody on the internet is a professional driver and has never made a mistake in their car

By the way, the people camping the corners and taking photos posted their photos from that day... very easy to see the roads were indeed wet.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacs...7625192896912/

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Old 10-25-2010, 10:40 AM   #18
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The helmet post was my slight attempt at humor. I just don't see why this video has to get everybody's hair all out of shape.

So was the road wet? It wasn't wet? Just damp? Hardly wet? Soaking wet?

This guy was acting immature (proving something to the Camaro behind him maybe?). He mashed the gas coming out of a turn, had no idea what corrective measures to take, three parked motorbikes got scalped, and it was all caught on digital film. Seems like just another crash that resulted from driving without regard for road conditions; doesn't matter whether the road was wet or dry - the collisions occured, and he better be covering for damages.

Next time you see tire marks on a winding road, take a second and visualize what may have happened there - it likely was not much different from what happened in this video.

Am I missing anything?
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Old 10-25-2010, 11:11 AM   #19
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Personally if that would have been my bike he hit I would have been dragging his ass out the car.
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Old 10-25-2010, 11:16 AM   #20
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LOLOLOLOL! I cant stand GTO drivers in the valley!
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Old 10-25-2010, 11:58 AM   #21
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LOLOLOLOL! I cant stand GTO drivers in the valley!
I'm sure they feel the same about a V6 camaro that can't get out of its own way.
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Old 10-25-2010, 12:31 PM   #22
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It was raining that day in that area. Not a whole lot, but it was.
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Old 10-25-2010, 12:59 PM   #23
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Looking at the amount of dust kicked up by the GTO, it couldn't have been very wet [if at all] at that particular location...
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Old 10-25-2010, 01:01 PM   #24
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Looking at the amount of dust kicked up by the GTO, it couldn't have been very wet [if at all] at that particular location...
doesn't matter. You don't need much water to start to compromise your tire's grip.
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Old 10-25-2010, 01:13 PM   #25
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doesn't matter. You don't need much water to start to compromise your tire's grip.
True.

However, halfway through that corner you can hear the tires screeching/ABS momentarily kick in. On a "wet road", he'd have been in the guard rail.

Plus, he nails the gas on exit, on a "wet road" the tires would not have had the traction to propel him across the other lane. Car would've just slid down his lane.
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Old 10-25-2010, 02:06 PM   #26
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Once again I am glad we have an internet forum of professional drivers to analyze the situation and explain how they would have busted it into a 360 with tires smoking and flipping the bird out the window.
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Old 10-25-2010, 04:44 PM   #27
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Glad you can determine the conditions of the road from your computer chair.

Everybody on the internet is a professional driver and has never made a mistake in their car

By the way, the people camping the corners and taking photos posted their photos from that day... very easy to see the roads were indeed wet.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacs...7625192896912/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacs...7625192896912/
I'm not being an internet pro. I didn't have to be there to see what happened or how the roads where. I can cleary see in the video what happened and what the roads are like!

I can tell you what I would have done! It would not be driving like an idiot on a public road thats what I would have done. And no I haven't made a mistake in any of my cars or on my bikes. I save stuff like that for a closed enviroment like the tracks!

From those photos you posted the links to I didn't see anything that it was wet! And who cares if it was or was not he was driving like a dumb ass and crashed into someones property that they pay money for! Lucky he didn't hit or injure someone.
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Old 10-25-2010, 05:00 PM   #28
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I wonder if his nanny controls were on? I made an aggressive lane change while merging onto a wet freeway (it was raining) and got the car a little sideways (10-15° if I had to guess) at 70MPH. The trac ctrl and stability ctrl did its things and she straightened out like a dream. I made corrective inputs, but my reaction was slow, if not for the nanny, I would have went for a ride and likely messed up a lot of vehicles. Learned my lesson, no aggressive lane changes on wet roads, I am not skilled enough to pull that stuff.
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