The 2011+ Mustang Thread - Page 170

ULTRAZLS1 · 03-31-2010, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Stew

Actually Edmunds Camaro Test put the Camaro SS they tested at like 1/10th or so slower and couple MPH slower (both tests done by them). I love it, when it cam to the 10 GTs and the Hallengers as much as 1/10th slower than the Camaro and it was considered a blower, I know it's different since a comparable Camaro is about 6-8k cheaper than a SRT8, not really, the SRT8 is well modified and has a better quality interior and a lot more content. Anywho, not going back down that road. Keep em coming

What are you talking about?

Edmunds had the camaro with the LS3 running 13.0 at 110.7 or so

they had the mustang at 13.0 @ 110.3 or so. (camaro was ever so slightly faster, not sure exact numbers...go check)

And yes...the srt-8 performance for the price was a "blower". One should just go GT500 or vette in that price range.

sailfan26 · 03-31-2010, 07:17 PM

When that happens, talwell, quickly write down all the details. I want to hear it all!

ULTRAZLS1 · 03-31-2010, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Allentown

I am a tad afraid of the new drive train..much as i was afraid of jumping into a 2010 camaro. But yes i am planning on getting one probably an early 2013 some time mid to late 2012. (my other two cars will be paid off by then, ill either trade or make the 10 a daily driver, not sure)

I do not like being a beta tester for any car company..not even Ford.

And yes i do believe the Camaro does/would start creeping forward (weather thats catching up or inching away)..if the race dragged for an extended ride where like in the salt flats..while the mustangs strength is/was the first few seconds due to being lighter. (unlike a lot of the camaro fanbois here i actually can concede the strengths of each)

As far as the 2011 v6..i think its amazing. Its still down on torque by 55ft/lbs (premium in the 2010 Gt nets 335ft/lbs)..and wont sound as good...but the gas mileadge.....

Well im ok with what i have till i give Ford a chance to produce the 5.0 for a while...ill be getting the 5.0 though, not the 3.7.

I am VERY VERY IMPRESSED by the performance of the mustang v-6.

But yeah your car will sound much better and has much more potential.

I just figured you would be slightly pissed at ford and your buying decision after what has happened with performance. I woud probably trade in but who knows.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot · 03-31-2010, 07:21 PM

350 3rd gens were always faster than fox bodies. The only thing the fox bodies could beat was the 305's.

Lt1 z28s/ss were still beating up mustang gts and the cobra ran about even with them. Then forgedaboutit when the ls1s came out.

ULTRAZLS1 · 03-31-2010, 07:24 PM

The LX notch back with a 5 speed could usually beat an L98 car if they had a really good driver.

Remember that the 350 3rd gen cars only had automatic transmissions.

Allentown · 03-31-2010, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

I am VERY VERY IMPRESSED by the performance of the mustang v-6.

But yeah your car will sound much better and has much more potential.

I just figured you would be slightly pissed at ford and your buying decision after what has happened with performance. I woud probably trade in but who knows.

I am a tad po'ed but i realize the strengths my car has in practicality areas as i travel with it (why i picked it over the camaro)..and i enjoy the proven reliability of the 4.6 that fords been producing in these things for years.... Im looking it as a very reliable fast car..no since in trading it in for a potentially unreliable faster one... However, when the times comes...

Well im very excited about getting my hands on a 5.0, but i can easily wait 18-24 months..

Ronin_2SS · 03-31-2010, 07:36 PM

not worried one bit about the new 5.0. bring it on

Revo1 · 03-31-2010, 07:44 PM

Staged... YAWN

2010 Bumblebee · 03-31-2010, 07:52 PM

In the reporters defense the only way you can get a camaro to say RS on it from the factory is with a V-6. The SS can have the RS package but it will say SS. I know RS is an option and not a trim.

That aside, it was a pretty cool video. Did you notice that they pushed the mustang a little harder to make it look like it is better?

First of all ,we the camaros, are the only ones with independent rear suspension of the three. If I'm correct. This alone makes the camaro better.

All three cars look great ! But the challenger is out of date on the inside & the mustang looks good, but looks too small inside & out.

The camaro looks good, handles good, is cool inside and out, it's just a way classier & sexier car !

I always think about buying a challenger or a mustang for another car besides the camaro if I had the money, but both of them just don't do it for me. I like to look at them, but don't desire to drive one.

I was thinking of a 4 door charger like the police cars for daily driver might be nice or a 4X4 chevy silverado.

Allentown · 03-31-2010, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010 Bumblebee

In the reporters defense the only way you can get a camaro to say RS on it from the factory is with a V-6. The SS can have the RS package but it will say SS. I know RS is an option and not a trim.

That aside, it was a pretty cool video. Did you notice that they pushed the mustang a little harder to make it look like it is better?

First of all ,we the camaros, are the only ones with independent rear suspension of the three. If I'm correct. This alone makes the camaro better.

All three cars look great ! But the challenger is out of date on the inside & the mustang looks good, but looks too small inside & out.

The camaro looks good, handles good, is cool inside and out, it's just a way classier & sexier car !

I always think about buying a challenger or a mustang for another car besides the camaro if I had the money, but both of them just don't do it for me. I like to look at them, but don't desire to drive one.

I was thinking of a 4 door charger like the police cars for daily driver might be nice or a 4X4 chevy silverado.

Not exactly true....the challenger has IRS also..and NEITHER are better handling then the mustang which wins hands down in handling across the board..so IRS..and and of itself...does not by any stretch make the Camaro better by de facto ruling...read ANY mustang review or road test and they all agree.

The challenger...having the most faithful to the orginal design of the three..is the best looking to my eye (subjective).

The mustang being the smallest...makes it the best..not the worst via being small. It makes it handle better, more fun to drive, easier to see out of and easier to park.

Have you ever heard anyone use the "yet but your porsche is too small to be any good argument"?..no....because smaller is often/usaully better in any sort of performance argument.

TripleB · 03-31-2010, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferrarimk13

thats 435 at the crank, no where did they say rwhp. It's sad to say, but the camaro is no longer is in first. What can you do.

well...i wouldn't say it's not in first anymore just yet. this is the 2011 mustang vs. the 2010 camaro. let's see what the 2011 camaro has in it, if they change anything that is. or we could compare the 2010 camaro to the 2009 mustang? pretty much the same thing that's going on here.

98_Camaro · 03-31-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by talwell

Something is not right about that video - appears as though the Camaro is not getting into the throttle. Yes, it appears the 2011 Mustang is a hair faster than the Camaro now, but this video is staged to make the Camaro look bad.

I like how in the first race the Mustang is burning rubber and the Camaro is just lulling along.

I'll be waiting for a REAL drag race to get my blood pumping.

ULTRAZLS1 · 03-31-2010, 08:18 PM

The camaro produced the best lap times in all the comparisons I have read. It just doesnt "FEEL" as agile as the mustang....it is a bigger car. Also the slalom and figure 8 tests reflect this. The bigger car is not going to be as good in transitions. But these tests alone do net tell the entire story (not that the camaro did bad in these, just not as well as the TRACK PACK enhanced mustang). The camaros lap times show that it is capable.

Part of the reason the 10 maro beat the 10 GT in the lap times I am sure was because of the power advantage. But the camaro is not a bad handling sports car like some like to say. Especially when the stock springs and sways are changed...the car can really carve.

If GM really wanted to compete with the mustang with the handling I dont know why they dont include a track pack like the mustang. The base price would still be the same. And like I said different springs and sways make it a whole new car...chevy was too conservative in this department.

nUcLeArEnVoY · 03-31-2010, 08:25 PM

This car is faster than our Camaros too:

Does it mean it's better? NO. Why? Look at it.

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03-31-2010, 07:36 PM	#2373
Ronin_2SS Loving My LS3 Drives: 2010 Summit white 2SS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Modesto CA Posts: 828 View My Garage	not worried one bit about the new 5.0. bring it on __________________

03-31-2010, 07:44 PM	#2374
Revo1 Don't Like it? Suggit. Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 14,832 View My Garage	Staged... YAWN __________________ "Tops off, tach up baby- loud and proud!" A Camaro lover from day one- 1996 3.8 V6 Camaro, to 1996 5.7 LT1 Camaro Z28, to the sold 2002 5.7 LS1 Camaro SS, and NOW, a [I]6.2 L99 VR 2SS/RS: XS Power stainless full exhaust, Airaid CAI, BMR drop springs and sways, custom tune by Cal Speed- 411rwhp

03-31-2010, 07:52 PM	#2375
2010 Bumblebee Drives: Transformers Edition Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Mass Posts: 1,048 View My Garage	Faster, Classier, & Sexier "The 2010 Camaro!" In the reporters defense the only way you can get a camaro to say RS on it from the factory is with a V-6. The SS can have the RS package but it will say SS. I know RS is an option and not a trim. That aside, it was a pretty cool video. Did you notice that they pushed the mustang a little harder to make it look like it is better? First of all ,we the camaros, are the only ones with independent rear suspension of the three. If I'm correct. This alone makes the camaro better. All three cars look great ! But the challenger is out of date on the inside & the mustang looks good, but looks too small inside & out. The camaro looks good, handles good, is cool inside and out, it's just a way classier & sexier car ! I always think about buying a challenger or a mustang for another car besides the camaro if I had the money, but both of them just don't do it for me. I like to look at them, but don't desire to drive one. I was thinking of a 4 door charger like the police cars for daily driver might be nice or a 4X4 chevy silverado. __________________ The Yellow Camaro Club http://www.camaro5.com/forums/group.php?groupid=128 Northern Massachusetts & Southern New Hampshire Camaro Club http://www.camaro5.com/forums/group.php?groupid=127 The mother of all supercharger questions thread http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77958 My 2010 Camaro Review http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2025442#post2025442 2010 Transformer Edition Camaro L99 Auto

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ULTRAZLS1 Drives: 14 Silverado LTZ Z71, 16 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Jackson, Michigan Posts: 4,418	The camaro produced the best lap times in all the comparisons I have read. It just doesnt "FEEL" as agile as the mustang....it is a bigger car. Also the slalom and figure 8 tests reflect this. The bigger car is not going to be as good in transitions. But these tests alone do net tell the entire story (not that the camaro did bad in these, just not as well as the TRACK PACK enhanced mustang). The camaros lap times show that it is capable. Part of the reason the 10 maro beat the 10 GT in the lap times I am sure was because of the power advantage. But the camaro is not a bad handling sports car like some like to say. Especially when the stock springs and sways are changed...the car can really carve. If GM really wanted to compete with the mustang with the handling I dont know why they dont include a track pack like the mustang. The base price would still be the same. And like I said different springs and sways make it a whole new car...chevy was too conservative in this department.

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