The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[DMX]

Apologies if this has been posted.

Mustang GT 5.0 vs Camaro SS Drag Race

[shank0668]

Pretty impressive, but a year later and not that much faster.

[305pride]

Originally Posted by DMX

Apologies if this has been posted.

Mustang GT 5.0 vs Camaro SS Drag Race

i dont think thats an ss

[Black GT]

Originally Posted by ROD1

dOH! I was reading an article about the 2011s and clicked a link on pricing. I thought it was for 2011s my bad. I did find that a GT will start at $38499,dude.

Base 2011 Mustang GT starts under $31,000

[rayhawk]

Originally Posted by mrray13

Awww, but that's not the whole story. The constant 5250 is indeed based upon a guess, by James Watt. He estimated the force it took for the horse to turn the mill wheel. He didn't/couldn't measure it.

The latter part of your post backs me up. The engine dyno measures torque, then computes horsepower. Which is my argument, even in chassis dyno form. Torque can be measured, horsepower has to be computed. I made that part bold in your quote.




1: Completely agree with you here. No argument from me.

2: Good point. I don't know the difference between the standards, so I'm at a loss.

I'm not blindly ruling out under-rated, just saying that is probably not going to happen. Based upon your comments above, I'll await judgement on the SAE until one can determine if it's the old, or new, standard used.

I do find it hard they would under-rate in a time when paper numbers mean more then anything. If they advertised the car at 425hp, vs the 412hp they are advertising, which is closer to what the dyno says it is making,the 425, it would garner even greater attention then it is. Or are they after they paid for, by both sides, ewww, awwww from magazine puppets when the track numbers show impressive performance for a 412hp car, vs okay performance for a 425hp car?

It is not a guess, it is mathematically determined based on the rpm, or revolutions per minute. Horsepower can be measured, you just have to measure the force applied PER UNIT TIME. Every measurement, even torque, has to be converted based on the load cell voltage change and put into a meaningful scale. Record time at the same time and you get hp. Oh and James Watt didn't guess anything, it was an average value which may have started out somewhat arbitrary but take my word for it, it is well defined. Also, again, you said the FORCE, but HP is not a force, it is a unit of POWER, or a force applied over a given amount of time.

With a torque wrench, you could apply 100 ft-lbs of torque using your arm at a near static speed, but I seriously doubt you could do it at 5250 rpm, which would require HP= 5250*100/5250 = 100 hp.

[DeathChill]

Originally Posted by Black GT

Base 2011 Mustang GT starts under $31,000

I thought it started at $29,xxx? I think it does but I may be remembering wrong.

[scrming]

Pricing is here:

http://www.mustangblog.com/blog/1041...-msrp-is-30495

There appears to be a LOT of options! But here are prices:

2011 Ford Mustang Prices:

- 2011 Mustang V-6 coupe – $22,995

- 2011 Mustang V-6 coupe (Premium) – $26,695

- 2011 Mustang V-6 convertible – $27,995

- 2011 Mustang V-6 convertible (premium) – $31,695

- 2011 Mustang GT coupe – $30,495

- 2011 Mustang GT coupe (Premium) – $33685

- 2011 Mustang GT convertible – $35,495

- 2011 Mustang GT convertible (Premium) – $38,695

[cubican]

You tube has a video,

[cubican]

vidio of the drag race

[SSRich]

Originally Posted by cubican

You tube has a video,

looks like the camaro let off prob ford people and somebody said that is a V6 camaro

[lil_chef]

Originally Posted by SSRich

looks like the camaro let off prob ford people and somebody said that is a V6 camaro

definitely an SS.....

[ULTRAZLS1]

Definitely slow as hell...

Probably ford people...listen to the video LMAO

[justincase_2008]

This is just like them comparing the GT500 to the ss why not the ZL575. Why not wait till the same year camaro comes into light. This whole power war is dumb to me. You may have more power but i LOVE my car and didnt get it to be faster then someone else cause someone will ALWAYS be faster then you. Either way we both have nice ass cars. just my to cents...

[TacoMike82]

Originally Posted by DMX

Apologies if this has been posted.

Mustang GT 5.0 vs Camaro SS Drag Race

Is that an SS? That's way more than a tenth...and I don't really like the commentator either, he seems really objective...