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Old 12-20-2009, 11:36 AM   #15
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i love this comment

"n terms of performance, the V6 Camaro automatic will hit sixty in 6.1 seconds. The 845 pound lighter (!) GTI will it sixty in 6.7 seconds (DSG) or 7.5 seconds (manual).

So, basically, what we've got here is 3,750 pound car that performs better than a 2,905 pound car, drives the correct set of wheels, and despite having a vastly larger and more powerful engine, gives up only 3 mpg to the GTI. And to top it all off, it's starts at thousand dollars less?

To put in alternative terms, one of the most reviled automotive manufacturers accused of having terrible engineering and products just put out a product that, pound for pound, is in most measured respects superior to the highly praised German engineering that is the GTI, and for less money. Not to mention that the V6 Camaro, thus far, has no major recalls or complaints about reliability.

I'm embarrassed for Volkswagen if that's the best they can do with a lightweight compact hatchback.

Also, as a side note, the CRX is not coming back. I don't want to be harsh, though.
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Old 12-20-2009, 03:02 PM   #16
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The Camaro made my Top 1 list and that's all that matters
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Old 12-20-2009, 06:54 PM   #17
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"The Mustang is so far improved that it makes its more sophisticated competition seem like flabby bores."

This statement alone makes them lose all credibility. It's clearly biased. Now I don't know anything about this Jalopnik, and if they come right out and say they are pro Mustang, then I understand the statement. If they are supposed to be a legitimate car
reviewer, then again that statement above is ridiculous.
So are you, and so is this site, get over it. It's amazing how when someone says something bad about the camaro, they are ignorant, or are wrong. Yet, most of the people here believe the SS can beat the space shuttle. Believe the SS's interior, exterior, and performance are all superior to any other car out there. Everyone has their own opinions, and will always be biased. It's life.
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Old 12-20-2009, 07:19 PM   #18
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So are you, and so is this site, get over it. It's amazing how when someone says something bad about the camaro, they are ignorant, or are wrong. Yet, most of the people here believe the SS can beat the space shuttle. Believe the SS's interior, exterior, and performance are all superior to any other car out there. Everyone has their own opinions, and will always be biased. It's life.
A legitimate review would be much more professional than that. I don't think the Camaro is better than anything out there. Every vehicle has it's flaws.
Of course there is gonna be bias on this site. Duh!!! If we were to write reviews with many of the opinions up here we would look like total tools. We are NOT writing reviews, we are showing are love and passion for a car. If that makes us defend it in an irrational way sometimes, so be it. If you don't like the bias up here you know where the door is.
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Old 12-20-2009, 07:23 PM   #19
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http://jalopnik.com/5428368/jalopnik...-2010/gallery/

But the Mustang did? I think this site has something against the Camaro.



They picked the Mustang because it was a good refresh of a previous year's model... How about picking something that was refreshed from 6 years prior? Most of the other cars I can cope with, especially the ZR1 (first GM super car production model) and the Genesis (first true sports car from Hyundai). But the 2010 Mustang was just a facelift and tummy tuck compared to the 2010 Camaro...
Boy the 2009 Mustang must have been a real dog if they only chose it because the 2010 was so far improved....

And whats with the Bracket drag comment, are they not good enough for a real head to head drag race?
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Old 12-20-2009, 07:44 PM   #20
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So are you, and so is this site, get over it. It's amazing how when someone says something bad about the camaro, they are ignorant, or are wrong. Yet, most of the people here believe the SS can beat the space shuttle. Believe the SS's interior, exterior, and performance are all superior to any other car out there. Everyone has their own opinions, and will always be biased. It's life.
You have to be stupid to still argue the 2010 GT was the better pony car of the 2010 MY. The SS took it, with ease.
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Old 12-21-2009, 10:58 AM   #21
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it's funny they talk about the mustang improvements. they must be talking about the track pack car. Car and Driver tested the V6 last month, with regular suspension, and they weren't impressed.
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Old 12-21-2009, 11:35 AM   #22
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A legitimate review would be much more professional than that. I don't think the Camaro is better than anything out there. Every vehicle has it's flaws.
Of course there is gonna be bias on this site. Duh!!! If we were to write reviews with many of the opinions up here we would look like total tools. We are NOT writing reviews, we are showing are love and passion for a car. If that makes us defend it in an irrational way sometimes, so be it. If you don't like the bias up here you know where the door is.
You proved my point. If you don't like the review by someone else, you can do the same thing. Just because people here think the SS is the greatest car ever, does not mean others do. I? I think the car is nice, but lacks in areas.
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Old 12-21-2009, 11:42 AM   #23
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Holy hell you guys are sensitive LOL

if this thread had a sound it would be a high school hallway when the girls pass by "omg becky.... bobby is such a douche!, stacey said what!? no the mustang didn't"

RELAX! wow you would think jalopnik is talking directly about your mother LOL

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Old 12-21-2009, 11:46 AM   #24
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Holy hell you guys are sensitive LOL

if this thread had a sound it would be a high school hallway when the girls pass by "omg becky.... bobby is such a douche!, stacey said what!? no the mustang didn't"

RELAX! wow you would think jalopnik is talking directly about your mother LOL
Lol tell me about it. These kinda posts make me laugh. It's hard to take most threads on this forum serious.
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Old 12-21-2009, 11:57 AM   #25
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Well, Jalopnik just selected ten popular cars and said, "we dig these". That is all, they don't base their ideas off of actual results of any kind. Heck, they state this in the article. They don't care what you think, this is a list of cars they like. (which isn't the camaro(which is no big surprise to me(because they are probably tired of talking about it)))
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Old 12-21-2009, 09:10 PM   #26
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You proved my point. If you don't like the review by someone else, you can do the same thing. Just because people here think the SS is the greatest car ever, does not mean others do. I? I think the car is nice, but lacks in areas.
No see it's different. It's not my purpose to come onto a forum where I don't even have the car or even a desire to own it and try and prove us fanboys wrong. I guess it's your duty to make sure we don't get too out of line with our bias.
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:49 AM   #27
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Lol tell me about it. These kinda posts make me laugh. It's hard to take most threads on this forum serious.
I've gotta ask: what do you expect to happen on the worlds largest 5th gen Camaro site when our favourite car doesn't get on a purely subjective 'hot list'? That we're going to all agree that its perfectly reasonably for them to think the 2010 Mustang is better? Hell no. I understand that some people here think the Camaro is the greatest car in the world and are blind to the notion that anyone would disagree. A lot more think it fits what they want in a car better than anything else out there and if nothing else, figure it to be superior to its nearest rivals, the Mustang and the Challenger. And they're also in the majority, since its outselling both of them. In fact, I would not be surprised if the Camaro is the best selling sporty car in America under $40,000 right now. So again, what do you expect to happen on the worlds largest 5th gen Camaro site when someone says its historical rival is better?
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Old 12-25-2009, 12:40 AM   #28
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I think both car and driver along with motor trend ranked the mustang as the better car. Might have been Road and Track that did, but anyhow, two of the big three liked the mustang better. So what? I have the mustang and I like it better, but it doesn't mean I hate the camaro. If the camaro were a little lighter, I would really like it.

The only thing that ever bothers me with fan boy types of posts is NOT their being upset that their car didn't make the list. It's that IF their car had of made the list, they would have posted the link up and yammering on about how their car made another list and how wonderful the ranking was.

When people whine because the people who did the rankings didn't place their car on some silly list, it makes them appear juvenile. But then again, most of the people who come to forums and buy camaros are, more than likely, juveniles, so I guess it is par for the course.

I have no idea why anyone cares what a magazine thinks. If YOU love your car, then that's all that matters, but I really believe that most people derive the love from their car only if other people like it, but I doubt many would ever admit it.
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