GM approves a new Camaro

[david_acm]

Originally Posted by MisterMarauder

With Al Oppeheiser not at the wheel, it'll be curious to see what the next gen Camaro holds.

I'm speculating here but could it be that Al's departure signals that a Camaro with qualities he disagrees with is coming? It feels similar to when Tim Kuniskis left Dodge right as the EV Charger was about to be released.

[m6-lt1]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

I won't argue the side of those who think it's a problem, I'm simply acknowledging their existence. It isn't just visibility out the rear but the "cavern" or "bathtub" feeling they complain about.

This. I eventually got tired of it (plus the other short comings) after 6 years.

I don’t think we are going to get the Camaro in the formula that we love. There is no business case for it. The Mustang is barely selling. Even if the Mustang went away and GM got 100% of the market share, I don’t think they will make enough of a profit to build a Camaro the way we (and maybe a few others who were interested in it but decided no after a test drive) like it.

Also if I’m wrong and this does happen, a 2SS will easily be 60k, and a ZL1 will probably start close to 100k. At those price points I’d rather just get a used 6th gen if I were in the market for a Camaro.

[m6-lt1]

Originally Posted by david_acm

I'm speculating here but could it be that Al's departure signals that a Camaro with qualities he disagrees with is coming? It feels similar to when Tim Kuniskis left Dodge right as the EV Charger was about to be released.

No. He wasn’t even working on team Camaro the last few years. His job was EV’s/the Hummer

[Junction65]

7GEN Camaro requirements for minimum viable product:

1. 6.7 LS6 DPI engine option
2. Supercharged variant of 6.7 DPI engine for higher trim level
3. M6/A10 transmission options
4. 3GEN styling influences both exterior and interior
5. Z28 trim level

Bonus req: T-tops option (not that it will ever happen, but adding it anyways because I can...)

[detamble13]

If we get a 2 door coupe I imagine it will also be offered as a 4 door sedan. To be honest if its not a 4 door electric cuv I feel like that would be a win.

[Knightfall50th]

I really hope they can keep the price down or at least in-line with the mustang so it sells well.

[Malbjey]

Originally Posted by Knightfall50th

I really hope they can keep the price down or at least in-line with the mustang so it sells well.

Yeah, this was another problem with the earlier 6th gen years. Before they launched the LT1 trim for model year 2020, you could only get the V8 Camaro in the SS1 and SS2 trims. They were more expensive than the V8 Mustang and V8 Charger/Challenger cars. They were thousands more expensive, IIRC?


Plus Chevy ****ed up by not offering the SS2 creature comforts as options on the LT1 car. You couldn't get blind spot monitoring, you couldn't get heated/cooled seats, you couldn't get the rear view camera, etc.


It was a HUGE price jump from the LT1 to the SS2 for that stuff.


The Turbo 4 and V6 trims did not have such a huge price jump for those options.

[olrocker]

Originally Posted by detamble13

If we get a 2 door coupe I imagine it will also be offered as a 4 door sedan. To be honest if its not a 4 door electric cuv I feel like that would be a win.

Since it’s going to be on the CT5 chassis offering a 4 door Camaro that’s essentially a CT5 sedan will only canabalize CT5 sedan sales.

I’m sure GM learned that lesson from the badge engineering days of the 80s.

[Junction65]

Originally Posted by Malbjey

Plus Chevy ****ed up by not offering the SS2 creature comforts as options on the LT1 car. You couldn't get blind spot monitoring, you couldn't get heated/cooled seats, you couldn't get the rear view camera, etc.

It was a HUGE price jump from the LT1 to the SS2 for that stuff.

That was not the intention of the LT1 trim and most LT1 buyers didn't want those options. The selective options offered in the LT1 trim mainly addressed the base coupe's shortcomings, for example the standard smaller infotainment screen hence the option of the Tech Package(bigger screen and Bose audio). Don't like the cloth seats...Recaro option. Not a fan of alcantara...leather comes standard on the dash, steering wheel, shift knob boot, etc. The LT1 trim is a different vibe for those that want to go that route.

There was no point of "loading up" a LT1 since you would end up in the SS price range.

[Red Chief]

Originally Posted by Knightfall50th

I really hope they can keep the price down or at least in-line with the mustang so it sells well.

The Mustang isn't selling well.

Compare the drop from the 6th gen to the 7th gen:

[bishopts]

Originally Posted by Red Chief

The Mustang isn't selling well.

Compare the drop from the 6th gen to the 7th gen:

Probably because it's so ugly

[mlee]

Originally Posted by david_acm

I'm speculating here but could it be that Al's departure signals that a Camaro with qualities he disagrees with is coming? It feels similar to when Tim Kuniskis left Dodge right as the EV Charger was about to be released.

Or it could mean no Camaro is coming at all...

Originally Posted by m6-lt1

No. He wasn’t even working on team Camaro the last few years. His job was EV’s/the Hummer

There was no team Camaro when he moved to GMC. In fact they started sending GM Performance parts team to Camaro Fest each year.

[JT6Speed]

Highly doubtful we get a car that resembles what we already had.

That formula doesn't sell well anymore, as others have mentioned. The Mustang is a good example, Supra has been cancelled too.

Plus, most US manufacturers only make 1 car now...Ford has Mustang, Chevy has Corvette, and Dodge has Charger.

Not sure another car, let alone a V8 car, would be a feasible option for them.

[HankVA]

Originally Posted by beowulf556

They are going to copy what they did with the electric mustang no doubt.

+1