1400 HP Mustang Prototype - Page 4

Norm Peterson · 07-22-2020, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroRSOnt

Heh a Ford SUV parked right beside my Camaro in the garage, last year it was a C7 parked there. Nothing wrong with having both.

Nothing wrong with having both as long as you like driving both, anyway. Foolish to own both if you can't stand to drive one of them.

Norm

CamaroRSOnt · 07-22-2020, 03:49 PM

So as I mentioned Tesla makes money by sucking money out of the other car companies. They do this by virtue of ZEV credits which some states mandate, these are Zero Emission Vehicle credits. If GM wants to sell a IC car in California they must produce a ZEV or buy a certain amount of ZEV credits to offset each vehicle. All of the big 3 end up buying credits from Tesla. Tesla is the primary seller of ZEV credits in the U.S.. Essentially that lowers the price of the EV and increases the cost of an IC car ,it is a direct subsidy to Tesla vis-a-vis gov't regulations. In Tesla's financials these ZEV credits are called Regulatory Credits.

Today Tesla's earnings came out and guess where they made all their money. Yr over yr their automotive revenue actually declined but those subsidies ZEV tripled. Without that revenue Tesla wouldn't have a profit to show.

"Automotive revenue declined by 4% year-over-year for Tesla from $5.38 billion to $5.18 billion, despite the company adding a new crossover SUV to its lineup, the Model Y, and opening a new plant in Shanghai in the past year.
In the year-ago quarter, Tesla reported $111.2 million in revenue from regulatory credits. That number nearly tripled to $428 million in regulatory credits in the second quarter of 2020."

UnknownJinX · 07-27-2020, 07:59 PM

So here is an article I came across. Supposedly in a survey for current car buyers, 47% of them disapprove Ford using Mustang nameplate for the EV CUV, while only 19% of them explicitly agree.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/31154/...nt-name-survey

Looks like there is still hope in humanity.

Sent from toaster or something

He11bent · 07-27-2020, 09:37 PM

You would think they would list the curb weight. Ford guys like to know how hard it will be to push.

07-22-2020, 03:49 PM	#44
CamaroRSOnt Drives: 2023 SS Vert Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Ontario Posts: 241	So as I mentioned Tesla makes money by sucking money out of the other car companies. They do this by virtue of ZEV credits which some states mandate, these are Zero Emission Vehicle credits. If GM wants to sell a IC car in California they must produce a ZEV or buy a certain amount of ZEV credits to offset each vehicle. All of the big 3 end up buying credits from Tesla. Tesla is the primary seller of ZEV credits in the U.S.. Essentially that lowers the price of the EV and increases the cost of an IC car ,it is a direct subsidy to Tesla vis-a-vis gov't regulations. In Tesla's financials these ZEV credits are called Regulatory Credits. Today Tesla's earnings came out and guess where they made all their money. Yr over yr their automotive revenue actually declined but those subsidies ZEV tripled. Without that revenue Tesla wouldn't have a profit to show. "Automotive revenue declined by 4% year-over-year for Tesla from $5.38 billion to $5.18 billion, despite the company adding a new crossover SUV to its lineup, the Model Y, and opening a new plant in Shanghai in the past year. *In the year-ago quarter, Tesla reported $111.2 million in revenue from regulatory credits. That number nearly tripled to $428 million in regulatory credits in the second quarter of 2020."* __________________ 1978 Z28 T-Roof 1984 Berlinetta 2007 Solstice Supercharged 2014 C7 Z51 2020 RS Convertible 2023 2SS Convertible

07-27-2020, 07:59 PM	#45
UnknownJinX Drives: 19 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS 1LE Shock Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 1,947	So here is an article I came across. Supposedly in a survey for current car buyers, 47% of them disapprove Ford using Mustang nameplate for the EV CUV, while only 19% of them explicitly agree. https://www.thedrive.com/news/31154/...nt-name-survey Looks like there is still hope in humanity. Sent from toaster or something __________________ Current: 2019 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS 1LE M6 Shock GM Performance Intake and that's it, because driver mods before car mods Past: 2009 Mazda RX-8 GT M6 Velocity Red Mica (Sold) 2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z51 2LT M7 Velocity Yellow Tintcoat (Flood totaled)

07-27-2020, 09:37 PM	#46
He11bent Drives: 2019 2SS Convertible Camaro Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 678	You would think they would list the curb weight. Ford guys like to know how hard it will be to push. __________________ \(^^^)/ <--A Smile From He11 Escort 360 MAXX w/DIYGen5 hardwire Harness K&N AirCharger Cold Air Intake Sound Tube Delete