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Old 10-05-2009, 02:07 PM   #15
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Pontiac was a cash cow. Sales were horrible. Even the G8 wasn't a good seller. Bringing Pontiac would only cause GM to lose money again. Pontiac is dead for a good reason.
Blunt but true :/ The only reason why I hated to see Pontiac go was because of the revival of the Firebird... but then again GM needs to focus on getting back on its feet and not on bringing back bad ass cars lol.
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:12 PM   #16
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How about a new Buick Grand National...remember those. Intercooled tubocharged V-6...smokin.
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:55 PM   #17
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There is no need for them to come back. They are just a face. Their products have a long history of sucking, and it's about time they go away.

GM needs to keep the G8 in other trim though.
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:58 PM   #18
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Hm, true
In the end i have to shake my fist at Bob Lutz for not seeing the gold mine he's standing on, if the Camaro alone can make such an impact that it pulls GM this far out of the fire then imagine a whole brand of Camaro-based ideals 0_0 haha, Lancelot rides in to save the day LOL

Also Pontiac would be the perfect platform to start pushing E85, since its notoriously a more performance-oriented fuel (from higher octanes) Pontiac could pounce on that big time, and instead of having a few E85 cars peppered here and there you could actually have a brand dedicated to the transition (of course they'd be hybrid at least at first for both E85 and gasoline)...that would solve everyone's trouble, the American Economy becomes less dependant on foreign resources like it wants, GM gets to uphold its promise for greener futures like they want, and we get to keep our power-house American toys like we want!
What are you smoking? The Camaro has pulled GM out of the fire? Are you serious? Have you seen GM's numbers lately?
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:02 PM   #19
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There is no need for them to come back. They are just a face. Their products have a long history of sucking, and it's about time they go away.

GM needs to keep the G8 in other trim though.
Next Gen Impala most likely...
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:08 PM   #20
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What are you smoking? The Camaro has pulled GM out of the fire? Are you serious? Have you seen GM's numbers lately?
I know I didn't want to say anything to seem like an ass. But there is little chance that one car could pull any automotive company back from the brink, unless it's totally innovative... Like a car that runs on water! (Love That '70 Show! )
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:11 PM   #21
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I think there is a reason GM didn't try and pawn off Pontiac like it did with Saturn. Maybe, maybe one day when they are nice and profitable, and pay us back our tax money, I could see them bringing Pontiac back as a low-volume specialty make.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:12 PM   #22
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I think there is a reason GM didn't try and pawn off Pontiac like it did with Saturn. Maybe, maybe one day when they are nice and profitable, and pay us back our tax money, I could see them bringing Pontiac back as a low-volume specialty make.
Imma need a lot of bags of popcorn to wait on this to happen.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:12 PM   #23
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Pontiac was a cash cow. Sales were horrible. Even the G8 wasn't a good seller. Bringing Pontiac would only cause GM to lose money again. Pontiac is dead for a good reason.

GM had horrible marketing of the G8. And it didn't help that it debuted as a new model of RWD Thirsty V8 right when gas hit $4.50/ gallon. When gas started falling the economy took a huge hit, then shortly after that pontiac was announced dead. And oddly enough that is when everyone started buying up the G8s. They out sold Buick, and Saturn, and Hummer, and I think Cadillac the months after learning pontiac was going away. (rebates helped with that admittedly)

Any objective car review I have seen states that the G8 is the best Pontiac ever built, as far as fit/ finish, quality, and argueably design.

:( I am sad to see it only have a 2 year run. well 2.5 model years to be exact. 2008, 2009, and 2009.5

Just when pontiac was getting cool with the Solstice GXP, and the G8 GT/ GXP and even the G8 base (V6). They finally got away from cheesy body cladding and bam, GM is effected by the credit drying up. They had to make cuts, and Pontiac made the most sense.

I too would like to see pontiac back.

I've owned 3 pontiacs
And the G8 is several classes ahead of the previous two

2002 Pontiac Sunfire GT
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:13 PM   #24
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I thought the G6 was the V6 version and the G8 was the V8 version? Seemed logical to me because of the corresponding numbers lol.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:27 PM   #25
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Imma need a lot of bags of popcorn to wait on this to happen.
I know, right? I figure if Chrysler of all companies could pull it off and pay us back once before, then maybe if I 'hope' hard enough GM will too.

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Old 10-05-2009, 11:30 PM   #26
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Imma need a lot of bags of popcorn to wait on this to happen.
Maybe less than you think. The process starts next year.

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GM had horrible marketing of the G8.
Except for that Superbowl spot, yes -- I agree. The trouble here was that the car was released right as they started to seriously tighten their belts. Under the "old GM", they cut marketing funding...a serious mistake, imo. That meant that a great new car like the G8 didn't get any coverage.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:31 PM   #28
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I still dont get why they did'nt drop Buick for the US market and keep Pontiac. I know Buick sell's great in China so let them keep it. It's not like it would'nt be possible.
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