PlayGround BRAWL: C&D Compares SS and GT... Camaro Wins Performace Test... AGAIN

[Cmicasa the Great XvX]

Article:

Whatever, mass is never an asset in a sports coupe, and it’s one of two elements that work to relegate the Camaro to second place in this rematch with the Mustang GT. This SS is 20 pounds lighter than the car we tested last summer, with more break-in miles, and it grumbled through the 0-to-60-mph and 0-to-100-mph sprints a little quicker this time: 4.6 seconds and 10.5 seconds, respectively. The revitalized Mustang was the Camaro’s equal to 60 mph, but once the 6.2-liter pushrod V-8 (426 horses, 420 pound-feet of torque) got all that metal moving past 60 mph, it was a bit quicker than the Ford.
On the other hand, with a 280-pound weight advantage and a shorter (numerically higher) rear end (3.73:1 versus 3.45), the Mustang was quicker in our 30-to-50-mph and 50-to-70-mph top-gear passing exercises, as well as in the 5-to-60 rolling start.

On the road, particularly a mountain road, the Camaro’s mass is magnified by its dimensions. At 190.4 inches, it’s 2.3 inches longer than the Mustang, 1.6 inches wider (at 75.5 inches), with a roofline 1.6 inches lower (54.2), on a wheelbase (112.3) that’s 5.2 inches long*er, and with a track that’s wider, front and rear. In its defense, this is a solid chassis that’s exemplary in terms of stability and inspires confidence as speeds build, confidence augmented by steering that’s nicely weighted, linear, and tactile throughout its range.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...mparison_tests


TEST RESULTS

http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...07775a541f.pdf

[Cmicasa the Great XvX]

Finally some one realizes WHY.. the Camaro is heavier. Extra Metal. This comparo does even more for my "DRIVER'S RACE" opinion... It also makes me want a Camaro as a daily driver even more than before.

Question: Have any of U Camaro buyers looked into after-market Carbon Fiber Hood and trunk weight savings??? I'm guessing about 70lbs.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

Article:

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...mparison_tests


TEST RESULTS

http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...07775a541f.pdf

have you been living under a rock? this has been posted multiple times already.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

Finally some one realizes WHY.. the Camaro is heavier. Extra Metal. This comparo does even more for my "DRIVER'S RACE" opinion... It also makes me want a Camaro as a daily driver even more than before.

Question: Have any of U Camaro buyers looked into after-market Carbon Fiber Hood and trunk weight savings??? I'm guessing about 70lbs.

of course it weighs more because of extra metal. I don't think anybody thought it was from extra plastics. c'mon man, common sense.


and I don't think you can get 70 lbs. off from just a hood and trunk, unless those are cast iron or something along those lines.

[Crowley]

Interesting gearing here .... Once the Mustangs get modded, they are shifting in to 5th gear going down the 1/4 ..

Camaro: Gear Ratio:1/MPH Per 1000rpm/Max speed in gear
1 3.01 / 7.9 / 52
2 2.07/ 11.6 / 77
3 1.43 / 16.7 / 110
4 1.00/ 23.9 / 157
5 0.84/ 28.5 / 157
6 0.57/ 42/ 157

Mustang: Gear Ratio:1/MPH Per 1000rpm/Max speed in gear
1 3.66/ 5.8/ 40
2 2.43/ 8.7/ 60
3 1.69/ 12.51/ 86
4 1.32/ 16/ 110
5 1.00/ 21.1/ 146
6 0.65/ 32.4/ 146

[Cmicasa the Great XvX]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

have you been living under a rock? this has been posted multiple times already.

naaaaah.. But I heard U were.:(

[Cmicasa the Great XvX]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

of course it weighs more because of extra metal. I don't think anybody thought it was from extra plastics. c'mon man, common sense.


and I don't think you can get 70 lbs. off from just a hood and trunk, unless those are cast iron or something along those lines.

I Soooooo wanted to call U something... but I promised that I would be good here.

I gotta ask... Are U to suggest that a CAST IRON hood and trunk would only weigh 70lbs?

[Stingr69]

What is the weight difference between the stock aluminum hood and the carbon fiber one? Can't be 70 Lbs, can it?

-Mark.

[kevin2323]

Originally Posted by Stingr69

What is the weight difference between the stock aluminum hood and the carbon fiber one? Can't be 70 Lbs, can it?

-Mark.

it's not that big of a difference......so the OP is probably wrong.

the challenger guys tried that and it wasnt that big of a difference

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

I Soooooo wanted to call U something... but I promised that I would be good here.

I gotta ask.. how STUPID are U to suggest that a CAST IRON hood and truNk would only weigh 70lbs?

Cast iron? What is this a 5 ton camaro?

[Crowley]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

Cast iron? What is this a 5 ton camaro?

LMAO .. only about 2 tons

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by Crowley

LMAO .. only about 2 tons

My point is, I very highly doubt the hood is cast iron.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

Cast iron? What is this a 5 ton camaro?

picking up on sarcasm isn't one of their virtues.

[Mr CLuTcH]

I've been living under a rock. But when I crawled from under, I saw the light.


I'm wondering when someone else is going to duplicate Motor Trends "miracle" quarter mile time for they're Mustang GT. Right now,.....SS leads.