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Old 10-16-2008, 10:07 PM   #1
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Talks between GM and Cerberus heating up

http://www.cnbc.com//id/27228423?__s...t%7C&par=yahoo

It appears GM would like to get a deal done in the next two weeks or abandon the whole thing.

http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/081016/busin...alks.html?.v=2

This is certainly farther along in the discussion process than anyone previously thought. I can see GM's keen interest in the minivans and Jeep, but other than that, there's nothing Chrysler has that would benefit GM. Other than an instant influx in liquidity, which is what GM desparately needs.

So, with that, let's discuss.....
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Old 10-16-2008, 10:09 PM   #2
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if this goes thru gm stock will go up correct? mmmmmmmmmmm time to make some money b(&(*&es
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Old 10-16-2008, 11:51 PM   #3
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yea GM should go up...

but yea this is interesting news... not sure of my opinion on this one...
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Old 10-17-2008, 12:29 AM   #4
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i personally dont like it because i like the big 3 being seperately...but ill bet you if chrysler merge dwith gm...ford wont be far behind.
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:15 AM   #5
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I still say things would be better if Chrysler went with Ford than GM. I like Chrysler, but I think that things would be more mutually beneficial if they went with Ford.
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Old 10-17-2008, 12:01 PM   #6
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This merger is a possibility for two reasons. GM needs money, which they would get from such a deal since it is pretty obvious that money is all Cerberus brings to the table, and Cerberus needs somebody to run their new toy, the Chrysler Corporation, since they obviously have not even the vaguest notion of how to do it themselves.

Both GM and Cerberus entertained a merger with Ford prior to starting talks with one another. Ford said no to both of them.
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Old 10-17-2008, 01:32 PM   #7
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So the question is, if this happens, which models will be phased out? I have a hard time believing that all the cars would survive a merger.
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:59 PM   #8
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So the question is, if this happens, which models will be phased out? I have a hard time believing that all the cars would survive a merger.
I think people may have the wrong impression here. Were I a betting man I would argue that a GM-Chrysler merger is going to look a lot more like Renault-Nissan than Daimler Chrysler. Still, we may be getting ahead of ourselves here, this is far from a done deal. Although GM's cash woes and Cerberus complete inability to run a car company don't leave either many other options at this point.

If this doesn't work out I look for Cerberus to go back to Ford and settle on a deal where Ford takes less responsibility for running Chrysler than Cerberus was initially looking for with Cerberus mainly getting bargain basement access to Ford platforms, manufacturing facilities, and/or drive-line components while Ford reaps the benefits of having a room-mate of sorts and potentially gets the Jeep brand.

I have no idea what GM will do if this falls through. Although I suspect a Renault-Nissan like deal with a foreign auto maker would be a real possibility. In fact, a Renault-Nissan-GM deal isn't unthinkable....and could yield some very interesting results. In fact, on paper it looks great. In the real world.........
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Old 10-17-2008, 04:10 PM   #9
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i think they will drop a lot; they might do something like merge hummer and jeep
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Old 10-18-2008, 02:50 AM   #10
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So...could I say "Challenger owners...."you just got OWN3D!!!"...and not be taken as sarcastic?

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Old 10-18-2008, 04:00 AM   #11
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more like you just got cut.......not owned.... but i doubt this will happen...
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Old 10-18-2008, 04:20 AM   #12
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well...if GM "owned" Chrysler....mmmmk. It's okay...was just playin'...
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Old 10-18-2008, 04:30 AM   #13
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yea i'm drunk.. so yea w.e you say taggy poo!
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Old 10-18-2008, 07:59 PM   #14
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Motor City worries Chrysler will be wiped out by GM

Anybody not think this is serious, now? OMG!

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Worries grow as GM-Chrysler talks gain momentum
Saturday October 18, 4:13 pm ET
By Tom Krisher, AP Auto Writer

Motor City worries Chrysler will be wiped out as talks of takeover by GM gain momentum


DETROIT (AP) -- In the doomsday scenario raising anxiety around the Motor City, General Motors Corp. makes a deal for Chrysler LLC, keeps Jeep and the minivans, and vaporizes the rest of the company.

Tens of thousands of Chrysler's 66,409 employees lose their jobs as cash-desperate GM swiftly cuts redundant operations and sheds unprofitable models.

Factories and dealerships are closed, and the lights go out at Chrysler's gleaming corporate headquarters campus in the northern suburb of Auburn Hills.

FULL STORY: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/081018/gm_ch...ger_talks.html
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