Cars that need a small block

[mikeyg36]

Saw this discussed on Motortrend's WOT.


I believe that the XTS and the ATS need a small block. I also agree that the Fisker Karma needs one
Opinions?

[Zabo]

All cars need a small block. No other engine should exist other than the small block. Duramaxes are small blocks too, so diesel and LPG are covered. /perfect world

Infact, all things should run on small blocks! Alarm clocks, toasters, laptops, small dogs, your neighbor's annoying children..

[FenwickHockey65]

XTS: Yeah, let's not do another FWD V8.

ATS: LT1 will fit but GM's probably going for the LF3 instead.

[mikeyg36]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

XTS: Yeah, let's not do another FWD V8.

ATS: LT1 will fit but GM's probably going for the LF3 instead.

Maybe on the AWD model?

I wish I had a small block alarm clock...

[fielderLS3]

Originally Posted by mikeyg36

I also agree that the Fisker Karma needs one
Opinions?

It would be less likely to start on fire that way, and probably not much less efficient.

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

XTS: Yeah, let's not do another FWD V8.

Solution: Stop doing large FWD Cadillacs.

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

ATS: LT1 will fit but GM's probably going for the LF3 instead.

Is there a V8 powered ATS in the works (perhaps an ATS-V)?

[mikeyg36]

Originally Posted by fielderLS3

It would be less likely to start on fire that way, and probably not much less efficient.



Solution: Stop doing large FWD Cadillacs.



Is there a V8 powered ATS in the works (perhaps an ATS-V)?

The ATS-V is supposed to be running the TT 3.6 V6, but the LS3 and the LT1 will fit. I also heard that the Alpha will need some re-working to support the power and torque of a V8.

[FenwickHockey65]

ATS-V will probably be LF3 powered, not LT1.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by mikeyg36

The ATS-V is supposed to be running the TT 3.6 V6, but the LS3 and the LT1 will fit. I also heard that the Alpha will need some re-working to support the power and torque of a V8.

And I've heard that its been designed from the beginning to accommodate 4 bangers through high-output V8s, since it will be underpinning the CTS & 6th Gen Camaro as well as the ATS.

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

ATS-V will probably be LF3 powered, not LT1.

Weren't you saying the reverse not that long ago, that it would probably be getting a gen V and not a turbo6?

[Kyle2k]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

And I've heard that its been designed from the beginning to accommodate 4 bangers through high-output V8s, since it will be underpinning the CTS & 6th Gen Camaro as well as the ATS.

Weren't you saying the reverse not that long ago, that it would probably be getting a gen V and not a turbo6?

I can't see it not having a v8 if the Camaro will have one for the 6th gen - unless the LF3 is really something special - which I hope for but I am not so sure...

[mikeyg36]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

And I've heard that its been designed from the beginning to accommodate 4 bangers through high-output V8s, since it will be underpinning the CTS & 6th Gen Camaro as well as the ATS.

Weren't you saying the reverse not that long ago, that it would probably be getting a gen V and not a turbo6?

I believe it was C&D that said that the smaller, weight saving parts of the Alpha platform had to be revised and strengthend for V8 applications. I really do hope it gets a V8 and not the turbo 6. I've never been a fan of turbo engines.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

And I've heard that its been designed from the beginning to accommodate 4 bangers through high-output V8s, since it will be underpinning the CTS & 6th Gen Camaro as well as the ATS.

Weren't you saying the reverse not that long ago, that it would probably be getting a gen V and not a turbo6?

I said the LT1 would fit, but back then engineers were still deciding on LT1 vs LF3. Seems like LF3's the predominant rumor now.

All rumors. Technically there isn't a such thing as an ATS-V.

[mikeyg36]

Whatever engine it has, it better destroy the M3. I hate that car with a passion

[Kyle2k]

Originally Posted by mikeyg36

Whatever engine it has, it better destroy the M3. I hate that car with a passion

I just hope that it is a tuned up version of the LF3 with something special as opposed to the same thing you can get in a next gen CTS or XTS

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by Kyle2k

I just hope that it is a tuned up version of the LF3 with something special as opposed to the same thing you can get in a next gen CTS or XTS

I guess that depends on what the LF3 is rated at off the shelf. If its a 400 hp engine out of the box, I don't have issue with it being in an ATS-V as is. More would be better, but 400 hp @ 3600lbs is a pretty good combo. If its 350 ... not so much