Hydrogen-producing bacteria?

*Mr. Wyndham* · 09-15-2008, 10:22 PM

I thought this was pretty neat. 3 times the electricity you put in, huh? Pretty impressive!

http://videos.howstuffworks.com/scie...ance-video.htm

Zieke · 09-15-2008, 10:35 PM

thats cool. wonder how long until we see this in use publicly.

*The_Blur* · 09-15-2008, 11:08 PM

This is genius. I can't even imagine how many of America's dependency problems this would solve.

Kyle2k · 09-15-2008, 11:21 PM

The best thing about hydrogen too is the fact that its combustible, and we can still have fun with IC engines!

*Camaro_Corvette* · 09-15-2008, 11:22 PM

That's definitely cool, for some reason i want to watch back to the future.

Nickdago · 09-15-2008, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Zieke

thats cool. wonder how long until we see this in use publicly.

This is still years and years away from being economically viable. They might even have cold fusion by then. I'll take a MR. FUSION please

JiXeR'z DoDgE/FoRd KiLLeR · 09-16-2008, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by camaro_corvette

That's definitely cool, for some reason i want to watch back to the future.

I just watched it on tv yesterday! LOL BTW Beast video Dragoneye!

Oracle · 09-16-2008, 12:14 PM

I am really not a fan of this article. Then again im not a fan of many "alternative fuel" articles. they are all misleading in some way to try and provide light in another direction. now i didnt get to watch the video because im at work but i did read the story, so correct me if im wrong and any of this was addressed. the problem with this is that it gives the idea that there is no waste other than water, which is true for burning hydrogen. but in the process, unless these are super bacteria that can split the atom all they are doing is breaking down the molecules of 'anything biodegradeable'. sound anything like cellulosic ethanol? sure does to me. this hydrogen farming is going to leave a waste of carbon behind. this carbon, im sure, can be used in other means, but were not exactly having a 'carbon shortage' are we? cellulosic ethanol on the other hand uses that carbon as part of the fuel. the other major problem i see with this article is that it claims about 82% of the energy is recovered. but that energy seems to be only calculated from the potential energy of the average biodegradeable material and the electrical current input. this equation shows no respect to which this material is obtained, but they have no problem quoting that loss for ethanol. now i think we all know ethanol has a ways to go, but this "idea" seems to me like garbage. i support hydrogen as a fuel but there are better sources to obtain it from, like breaking down the molecules of water, particularly salt water. we arent having a shortage of that either now are we?

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Oracle Drives: Ford Focus Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Phoenix, Az Posts: 71	I am really not a fan of this article. Then again im not a fan of many "alternative fuel" articles. they are all misleading in some way to try and provide light in another direction. now i didnt get to watch the video because im at work but i did read the story, so correct me if im wrong and any of this was addressed. the problem with this is that it gives the idea that there is no waste other than water, which is true for burning hydrogen. but in the process, unless these are super bacteria that can split the atom all they are doing is breaking down the molecules of 'anything biodegradeable'. sound anything like cellulosic ethanol? sure does to me. this hydrogen farming is going to leave a waste of carbon behind. this carbon, im sure, can be used in other means, but were not exactly having a 'carbon shortage' are we? cellulosic ethanol on the other hand uses that carbon as part of the fuel. the other major problem i see with this article is that it claims about 82% of the energy is recovered. but that energy seems to be only calculated from the potential energy of the average biodegradeable material and the electrical current input. this equation shows no respect to which this material is obtained, but they have no problem quoting that loss for ethanol. now i think we all know ethanol has a ways to go, but this "idea" seems to me like garbage. i support hydrogen as a fuel but there are better sources to obtain it from, like breaking down the molecules of water, particularly salt water. we arent having a shortage of that either now are we?

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