Throttle by wire, I hate it, heres why Toyota does too.

THUMPER20X · 02-23-2010, 01:54 AM

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/toyota...ory?id=9909319

*Mindz* · 02-23-2010, 02:18 AM

interesting.

2ndgenz28 · 02-23-2010, 02:24 AM

Its all gonna lead back to the software, Toyota is just trying to save face and dismiss it, cause I bet they broke many rules like that to make it work for now, and hope it didn't rear its ugly head while the work on fly by wire for cars that doesn't cost like it does in a plane and is as safe as planes.

derklug · 02-23-2010, 10:16 AM

Fly-by-wire is not new technology in the automotive world. Trucks and buses have used fly by wire since the 80's, and I haven't seen a rash of runaway trucks and buses in the last 20 years. I have thought from the begining that this was a software problem, and Toyota's recall was a save face and get back into production move. If Toyota had told the NTSB that they had no clue what was wrong, they would have been shut down cold.

Number 3 · 02-23-2010, 11:11 AM

Thumper, are you only saying you hate TBW because Toyota is having problems? The professor also reviewed GMs system and stated it could not do what he claims Toyota does.

TheCaptain · 02-23-2010, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 3

Thumper, are you only saying you hate TBW because Toyota is having problems? The professor also reviewed GMs system and stated it could not do what he claims Toyota does.

GM for the win.

ron10 · 02-23-2010, 11:56 AM

toyota is in deep KA-KA.

AZCamaroFan · 02-23-2010, 01:45 PM

I was just about to start a thread about this. What does everyone think? First car that i remember using this was the 1997 Corvette.

2ndgenz28 · 02-23-2010, 01:48 PM

The lady crying on cap hill about calling her husband one last time was a knockout punch, even more so as Toyota dismissed her like she was a loon like its not their problem.

SleepWarz · 02-23-2010, 03:13 PM

Throttle by wire sucks. But then again its no fun when your return spring breaks and your linkage detaches from the bottom of the pedal either....

THUMPER20X · 02-23-2010, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 3

Thumper, are you only saying you hate TBW because Toyota is having problems? The professor also reviewed GMs system and stated it could not do what he claims Toyota does.

Nono lol. I just dont like the feel of it. I dunno I do feel disconnected from the car in a way. For sure this is probly a Toyota only problem or the electronics/components.

djsnoflake · 02-23-2010, 06:14 PM

I heard this on news radio on my drive home from work today. Made me LOL and definately brightened my day

Class1E · 02-23-2010, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2ndgenz28

The lady crying on cap hill about calling her husband one last time was a knockout punch, even more so as Toyota dismissed her like she was a loon like its not their problem.

Saw that on the news. IMO, Toyota is going to have a pretty long row to hoe to get back in the good graces of the US market.

10redrocket · 02-23-2010, 11:22 PM

My 05 Cobalt SS had drive by wire and had a very pronounced lag between
my foot and actual acceleration.
I also had an 07 that was slightly better.

The Camaro IMO is much better and hardly noticable.
Throttle response is almost instant, at least on mine.

And yes, I've had the throttle stick on my 67 SS at 120 and scared the hell
out of me.

Either way, crap happens!

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derklug Drives: 12 Boss 302 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Posts: 1,369	Fly-by-wire is not new technology in the automotive world. Trucks and buses have used fly by wire since the 80's, and I haven't seen a rash of runaway trucks and buses in the last 20 years. I have thought from the begining that this was a software problem, and Toyota's recall was a save face and get back into production move. If Toyota had told the NTSB that they had no clue what was wrong, they would have been shut down cold. __________________ The biggest mistakes in life come when you know exactly what you are doing.

02-23-2010, 11:11 AM	#5
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,301 View My Garage	Thumper, are you only saying you hate TBW because Toyota is having problems? The professor also reviewed GMs system and stated it could not do what he claims Toyota does. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

02-23-2010, 11:22 PM	#14
10redrocket Drives: 2SS Camaro LS3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Irwin, PA Posts: 195	My 05 Cobalt SS had drive by wire and had a very pronounced lag between my foot and actual acceleration. I also had an 07 that was slightly better. The Camaro IMO is much better and hardly noticable. Throttle response is almost instant, at least on mine. And yes, I've had the throttle stick on my 67 SS at 120 and scared the hell out of me. Either way, crap happens! __________________ RECEIVED 5/22/09 - 2SS, SIM with CGM stripes, Black Leather, Polished 20's, Sunroof, LS3. Past Rides: 69 Camaro RS Small Block 67 Chevelle SS Big Block 05 Cobalt SS Supercharged 07 Cobalt SS Supercharged 10 Camaro 2SS LS3 Soon: 18 Camaro 2SS 1LE

02-23-2010, 02:24 AM	#3
2ndgenz28 Thread Killer Drives: All Black Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NWO Toledo Area Posts: 4,720	Its all gonna lead back to the software, Toyota is just trying to save face and dismiss it, cause I bet they broke many rules like that to make it work for now, and hope it didn't rear its ugly head while the work on fly by wire for cars that doesn't cost like it does in a plane and is as safe as planes.

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ron10 Drives: 2010 2SS IOM L99 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: LOUISVILLE,KY.. Posts: 7,545	toyota is in deep KA-KA.

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AZCamaroFan Camaro6 2016-2018 Drives: sometimes Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 18,468	I was just about to start a thread about this. What does everyone think? First car that i remember using this was the 1997 Corvette.

02-23-2010, 01:48 PM	#9
2ndgenz28 Thread Killer Drives: All Black Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NWO Toledo Area Posts: 4,720	The lady crying on cap hill about calling her husband one last time was a knockout punch, even more so as Toyota dismissed her like she was a loon like its not their problem.

02-23-2010, 03:13 PM	#10
SleepWarz Banned Drives: 1991 New Yorker, 69 Tbird, ABM2SSRS Join Date: May 2009 Location: BC Canada Posts: 2,248 View My Garage	Throttle by wire sucks. But then again its no fun when your return spring breaks and your linkage detaches from the bottom of the pedal either....

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