AUTO RESTRUCTURING FACT SHEET

Suskam · 03-31-2009, 08:22 AM

For those of you interested in reading about the Auto Restructuring plan:

http://www.gmsupplypower.com/apps/r4...et20090330.pdf

ZombieEatsYou · 03-31-2009, 09:14 AM

Just heard on Fox from Stuart Varney: Govt is telling GM to kill the Volt along with 11 of it's 20 most profitable vehicles. Which 11; trucks and SUVs. Varney's take: political considerations will now override economics. GM will be forced to build small, fuel efficient vehicles that the government wants us to drive.
My opinion now. Question is, how are they going to force us to buy them? Rest assured, there will be "force" of some kind.

UCF w00t · 03-31-2009, 09:20 AM

Wait... why the hell would the feds want GM to kill the Volt? Isn't that the poster child for
"green"?

Zabo · 03-31-2009, 09:22 AM

Aparently they think that the 40K price tag was a proving point that "GM doesn't know what the hell it's doing, move over.."

..Regardless of the fact that they're redeveloping most of this tech from scratch. And that R&D costs..I dunno..money? Yeah. They want something now.. regardless of how advanced it is. Still loving my Rolaids stock.. -_-

Crowley · 03-31-2009, 09:24 AM

Good info .. thanks for the pDF ..

Crowley

Vash · 03-31-2009, 09:25 AM

Get rid of the all caps silly. It's rude.

67camaro99 · 03-31-2009, 09:42 AM

IF GM were to shutter GMC, and only build Chevrolet Trucks (and Cars of course), where is the down side?
I too do not agree that the Gov't should be making these decisions, but when you have:
Enclave, Traverse, Arcadia, Outlook, all cross competing, maybe a leaner meaner GM is not that bad.
The list goes on, and on... The new Malibu (which is great), took many sales, I am sure from the Aura...
Ford Markets their Ford, and Lincoln line, Toyota= Toyota, Lexus, GM: GMC, Pontiac, Chevrolet, Cadillac, Buick, Saturn...
Every Interior difference, and Sheetmetal, and front fascia, and rear, all carry huge devolpment costs.
Something to consider, is all I'm saying...
*yes, I know Mercury is part of the FMC, but they are a none factor... without an independant dealer network...

Hylton · 03-31-2009, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67camaro99

IF GM were to shutter GMC, and only build Chevrolet Trucks (and Cars of course), where is the down side?
I too do not agree that the Gov't should be making these decisions, but when you have:
Enclave, Traverse, Arcadia, Outlook, all cross competing, maybe a leaner meaner GM is not that bad.
The list goes on, and on... The new Malibu (which is great), took many sales, I am sure from the Aura...
Ford Markets their Ford, and Lincoln line, Toyota= Toyota, Lexus, GM: GMC, Pontiac, Chevrolet, Cadillac, Buick, Saturn...
Every Interior difference, and Sheetmetal, and front fascia, and rear, all carry huge devolpment costs.
Something to consider, is all I'm saying...
*yes, I know Mercury is part of the FMC, but they are a none factor... without an independant dealer network...

Many here have been saying that for a while now. But seriously, what's so wrong about offering a Yukon, Denali, Suburban, Tahoe and Escalade?

Transmaro · 03-31-2009, 09:59 AM

Its a good thing the government can print money, otherwise they would be bankrupt as well. Not so sure they know the best thing for GM. Maybe let it go under, break it up, and find some investors. But dont let the government decide the model lineup...

ringb1 · 03-31-2009, 10:01 AM

We live in Americia, we should make our own choices and so should GM what to build , when we get GOV intervention calling the shots we will be no different than a communist country.

Sierra · 03-31-2009, 10:20 AM

im getting tired though of GM made to look like its the bad guy. Like Ford is building what customers want. All they built the last ddecade was trucks. I dont even think they had a viable car until the fusion or 500.

Hylton · 03-31-2009, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sierra

im getting tired though of GM made to look like its the bad guy. Like Ford is building what customers want. All they built the last ddecade was trucks. I dont even think they had a viable car until the fusion or 500.

It's really about whether or not a company can survive on it's own or not. Ford has not asked for a dime so as far as I am concerned, they can go on building whatever they believe will make the company prosper.

BigRigMike · 03-31-2009, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VenomZ302

Sorry. I hate to fan the flames, but who do you call a government that forces/heavily influences decisions of a company?

Did the government force GM to take money?

VenomZ302 · 03-31-2009, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRigMike

Did the government force GM to take money?

Definitely a valid point. It was their choice which is now enslaving GM to the government. Regardless, I wouldn't say that the current administration has to force a change in product line up and, considering the definition of democracy, they don't seem to be doing so democratically.

03-31-2009, 08:22 AM	#1
Suskam Drives: '11 Camaro/ '02 Grand Prix Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 636 View My Garage	AUTO RESTRUCTURING FACT SHEET For those of you interested in reading about the Auto Restructuring plan: http://www.gmsupplypower.com/apps/r4...et20090330.pdf __________________

03-31-2009, 09:14 AM	#2
ZombieEatsYou Drives: "Bmblbee" 2010 RY 2SS/RS. VIN 12043 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Waldorf, Maryland Posts: 1,266 View My Garage	Just heard on Fox from Stuart Varney: Govt is telling GM to kill the Volt along with 11 of it's 20 most profitable vehicles. Which 11; trucks and SUVs. Varney's take: political considerations will now override economics. GM will be forced to build small, fuel efficient vehicles that the government wants us to drive. My opinion now. Question is, how are they going to force us to buy them? Rest assured, there will be "force" of some kind. __________________

03-31-2009, 09:24 AM	#5
Crowley Okie doke Drives: 2012 GT500 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: McKinney Texas Posts: 3,567 View My Garage	Good info .. thanks for the pDF .. Crowley __________________

03-31-2009, 10:20 AM	#11
Sierra Drives: 2004 GMC Sierra SLT 4x4 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southern NJ Posts: 1,045	im getting tired though of GM made to look like its the bad guy. Like Ford is building what customers want. All they built the last ddecade was trucks. I dont even think they had a viable car until the fusion or 500. __________________ On the 8th day God created the Camaro and all is good.

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