The 2014 Corvette Stingray Forum
News / Blog Register Social Groups Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   Chevrolet Corvette Stingray C7 Forum > Members Area > Off-topic Discussions

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 02-08-2010, 10:30 AM   #1
2001ragtop

 
2001ragtop's Avatar
 
Drives: V8 american car
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Dallas, Tx
Posts: 1,417
should read -- from Dallas Morning News

From Sunday's paper, Steve Blow's column....

A worrisome sign on the state of society
12:00 AM CST on Sunday, February 7, 2010

I'm an optimist by nature. I believe the general march of humanity is toward progress.

And I pay little attention when others wring their hands about our being a nation in decline.

But once in a while, something comes along to give me pause.

And one instance was the recent search to find new deputies for the Dallas County Sheriff's Department.

Maybe we are in trouble.

Five new recruits will begin the training academy Monday. Congratulations to them. But woe the winnowing required to find them.

Those five began in a field of 206 applicants. That's how many men and women sat down to take the first test on the path to becoming a deputy.

Some already worked for the Sheriff's Department as jailers. Others were outsiders. But all knew what the screening process involved.

Anyone with obvious shortcomings wouldn't have bothered to apply. So by self-selection alone, those 206 should have been a quality group.

But not quality enough, apparently.

They began with the academic exam – a high- school-level test of memory, grammar, reading comprehension and analytical ability.

Of the 206, only 39 passed.

Next came a physical fitness test – 21 push-ups, 29 sit-ups, a vertical leap of 15.5 inches, a 1.5-mile run in less than 16 minutes, 28 seconds. Nothing too rigorous.

Of the 39, only 16 passed.

Then came the background investigation. Of the 16, only 10 made it through.

Next, a polygraph exam. Of the 10, nine passed.

Then the psychological evaluation. Of the nine, seven were deemed trustworthy to carry a badge and gun.

Along the way, two more withdrew voluntarily – probably expecting to fail one of the upcoming steps.

And that left a grand total of five people with the mental, physical and moral fitness to begin training as peace officers – less than 3 percent of the 206 who began.

Heaven help us. Could that be an accurate snapshot of our society today?

The results might not have disturbed me so, except for an earlier report. That one looked at our nation's young adults and their fitness for military enlistment.

The study eliminated those without a high school diploma. It eliminated those too fat or otherwise unhealthy to serve. It eliminated those with a criminal record or serious history of drug abuse.

Care to guess how many young adults (ages 17 to 24) were left as eligible to enlist?

Only 25 percent.

That ought to give anyone pause about our future – when three-fourths of your country's young adults don't have the smarts, strength or character to qualify for military service.

I suspect that you and I and most everyone reading this resides in the world of that other 25 percent – the fortunate sector where most young people thrive and succeed.

I'm certain that most of the decision makers in our nation live in that world.

Oh, we have glimpses of the problem. We know the kid who got mixed up in drugs or bailed on high school. We know the lard butt who excels only at video games and potato chips.

But maybe it's time for us to wake up to just how pervasive those problems are.

The military fitness report concluded that more early-childhood education is the key to turning things around.

I'm sure that's one step in the process.

But maybe the starting point is a little more alarm and a little less optimism.

end of column
2001ragtop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2010, 11:02 AM   #2
Stingr69
'69 Owned Since '79
 
Stingr69's Avatar
 
Drives: '69 Z/28 LeMans Blue w/White
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: LR AR
Posts: 1,848
206 people that applied for a job does not count as a "snapshot of society". Those were 206 people that were interested in that job as a way to get ahead of where they are now. Society is full of many more people that would not want that job.

-Mark.
Stingr69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2010, 03:23 PM   #3
Brokinarrow


 
Brokinarrow's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Honda NC700x
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Indianola, IA
Posts: 5,317
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stingr69 View Post
206 people that applied for a job does not count as a "snapshot of society". Those were 206 people that were interested in that job as a way to get ahead of where they are now. Society is full of many more people that would not want that job.

-Mark.
It's still disconcerting either way.
__________________
Brokinarrow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2010, 03:28 PM   #4
CamaroSpike23
Truth Enforcer
 
CamaroSpike23's Avatar
 
Drives: anything I can get my hands on
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: anywhere and everywhere
Posts: 22,797
Send a message via Yahoo to CamaroSpike23
interesting.
__________________
Never race anything you can't afford to light on fire and push off a cliff
A group as a whole tends to be smarter than the smartest person in that group until one jackass convinces everyone otherwise.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BowtieGuy View Post
Nobody makes CamaroSpike happy. You just disgust him a little less than other people.

Quote:
Originally Posted by WheelmanSS View Post
Post count is truly an accurate measure of how cool someone is on the Internet.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Norris View Post
I piss excellence
and fart awesomeness
"You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.”
Quote:
Originally Posted by Overflow View Post
But not all people were born awesome like you, Spike.
CamaroSpike23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2010, 03:29 PM   #5
Brokinarrow


 
Brokinarrow's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Honda NC700x
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Indianola, IA
Posts: 5,317
I guess this gives 'The Few, the Proud' some added significance
__________________
Brokinarrow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2010, 03:33 PM   #6
CamaroSpike23
Truth Enforcer
 
CamaroSpike23's Avatar
 
Drives: anything I can get my hands on
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: anywhere and everywhere
Posts: 22,797
Send a message via Yahoo to CamaroSpike23
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokinarrow View Post
I guess this gives 'The Few, the Proud' some added significance

something I didnt think about till the second read-thru....

Quote:
The study eliminated those without a high school diploma
there are a quite a few 17 to 24 military members without a high school diploma. and I doubt that the study included those with a GED.
__________________
Never race anything you can't afford to light on fire and push off a cliff
A group as a whole tends to be smarter than the smartest person in that group until one jackass convinces everyone otherwise.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BowtieGuy View Post
Nobody makes CamaroSpike happy. You just disgust him a little less than other people.

Quote:
Originally Posted by WheelmanSS View Post
Post count is truly an accurate measure of how cool someone is on the Internet.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Norris View Post
I piss excellence
and fart awesomeness
"You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.”
Quote:
Originally Posted by Overflow View Post
But not all people were born awesome like you, Spike.
CamaroSpike23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2010, 03:41 PM   #7
Brokinarrow


 
Brokinarrow's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Honda NC700x
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Indianola, IA
Posts: 5,317
Quote:
Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23 View Post
something I didnt think about till the second read-thru....



there are a quite a few 17 to 24 military members without a high school diploma. and I doubt that the study included those with a GED.
this is true. And also, I don't know if they changed things since I was in (04-08), but there were a lot of guys that had drug wavers (they got wavers for everything!). But I think most of those weren't for 'heavy' use.
__________________
Brokinarrow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2010, 03:43 PM   #8
CamaroSpike23
Truth Enforcer
 
CamaroSpike23's Avatar
 
Drives: anything I can get my hands on
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: anywhere and everywhere
Posts: 22,797
Send a message via Yahoo to CamaroSpike23
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokinarrow View Post
this is true. And also, I don't know if they changed things since I was in (04-08), but there were a lot of guys that had drug wavers (they got wavers for everything!). But I think most of those weren't for 'heavy' use.

I got a waiver.... because of semantics.
__________________
Never race anything you can't afford to light on fire and push off a cliff
A group as a whole tends to be smarter than the smartest person in that group until one jackass convinces everyone otherwise.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BowtieGuy View Post
Nobody makes CamaroSpike happy. You just disgust him a little less than other people.

Quote:
Originally Posted by WheelmanSS View Post
Post count is truly an accurate measure of how cool someone is on the Internet.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Norris View Post
I piss excellence
and fart awesomeness
"You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.”
Quote:
Originally Posted by Overflow View Post
But not all people were born awesome like you, Spike.
CamaroSpike23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2010, 12:14 AM   #9
Superman09
Account SNAFU
 
Superman09's Avatar
 
Drives: 13 Tahoe 79 Scout II 15 1LE
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: College Station, TX
Posts: 1,356
The first time I applied for the local PD we actually had two drug dealers arrested as they tried to get into the test. They thought it would be funny to see how far they got. Those 206 people I would say probably 150+ of them knew they didn't have a snowballs chance in hell of making it.
Superman09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Good news/bad news Homanue1 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 24 07-23-2009 01:52 PM
Good news & Bad news Dano Camaro Price | Ordering | Tracking | Dealers Discussions 7 06-17-2009 05:02 PM
Please read: fbodfather 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 36 05-11-2008 10:38 PM
PLEASE READ........ fbodfather Camaro Photos | Spyshots | Video | Media Gallery 38 05-04-2008 10:24 PM
5th Gen Camaro LS3 info from Chevy Hi-Po...READ TAG UR IT Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 295 03-07-2008 11:06 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:43 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.