Kinda sucks that the people complaining about the challengers weight just got slapped in the face with a 3900+ pound pig. Just like someone else said hopefully dodge and chevy get their stuff straight and put both these cars on a diet. As for looks by far the challenger takes the cake but of course not many will agree on a camaro forum. But it is my opinion and I will take 200 extra lbs for the look of the challenger. The camaro looks more modern than retro , but it's still a chevy