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Originally Posted by Expunge
You assume wrong.. All I have ever owned is Chevy's. And unlike anyone here I still own a ZR2, drove in to work today in my ZR2, and have owned ZR2's since August of '96. My '02 ZR2 when it was new was 22K.. which today is considered cheap, but now it barely gets you into a 4cyl, 2wd Colorado. Yes time goes on and there is inflation yada yada yada,, but I digress.
The 3 grand number I come up with is based on the price of a Colorado Z71 4x4 ext cab with tow package, that configuration comes out a bit above 34K.
Stop and think what really is added on the ZR2 versus the Z71?
Yes it has improved suspension, how much is that worth?
Improved shocks
Front and rear E locker vs. mechanical lockers
better tires and rims
Final price should be in the 37K - 38K range if you exclude the fluff I mentioned.
As to the Raptor comment, I compare it to the Raptor because it is a highly desired off-road truck and if you are going to have a Colorado ZR2 in shouting distance of the price of 50K then it can and should affect sales if the price is close to a Raptor. You cannot have a fullsize price on a midsize truck.
A 50K Raptor gets you a better truck(and how I do not like admitting this, since I am no fan of Ford) with a 450hp motor that also has a better resale value than the ZR2 ever will. That is why IMO I believe the ZR2 should start in the high 30's, to differentiate it from a Raptor since it will never be on par with a Raptor.
I want the ZR2's to sell well, not sit on the car lots like the 6th gen because the price is too high.
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I'm just going to ramble on if you don't want to read that's fine by me.
I love that you own a ZR2. They were cool trucks. I used to swap my camaro for an SS S10 a friend of mine owned every now and then. Loved that truck. I loved the size of it. I would have to say I always viewed the S10 pickup as more of a compact truck than a midsize. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm not thinking inflation, but i'm seeing a lot more truck in the colorado than the S10 ever dreamed of. Hence the much larger price.
I'm not sure where you're buying your trucks at, but in my area mid-size trucks hold their value like they are made of gold. That's about all I have on that.
The Raptor...Hmm I'm just not seeing it. First, the colorado already has the full size price on a mid size truck. Sales are fine. The ZR2 isn't going to sell like hotcakes. I do not believe it was designed to. I think the price of bringing this model to the table will be transferred to the people wanting to buy it. That said, i'm not seeing many people going crazy at the dinner table over a 9 thousand dollar difference between two similar, but yet totally different trucks. I still think they are going to go with the truck they wanted in the first place.
The price is right in line with where is should be. In fact it's actually cheaper than I expected. Do I expect it to sell millions of units? Nope. Will it be around forever? nope. Does GM know they have a product that people want? Definitely. Do I think people should nab them up while they can?
Yeah, i'd be placing my order if I were in the market. But I'm waiting for something a little different to hit the Colorado. More in terms of an LT1.
It won't happen, but I'll keep waiting.
Just off on a rant now.
Some of you guys continually compare mid size to full size trucks and think people are simply going to flock to a full size cause the price is the same. They are still different trucks, and anybody that still has their senses upon them will see that. I don't go to a car lot and cross shop different size sedans when I know I want a small one. That just wouldn't make sense.
I've seen guys go through this time and time again. They go to the dealer, and they have one midsize on their lot. Dealers use that as a way to get you to spend a little more cash. They say, "well for just a little more money i can get you in a full size". EVERY TIME! And it works, cause they get caught up in the moment, and buy the full size because the dealer fed them the sale. That's their job. It's 50/50 after that. Either they are happy with the full size, or they regret it 6 months down the road. Same goes for any vehicle you buy. Maybe I just don't think like everybody else, but that's how I see it.