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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

Why would GM get crucified for taking pre-orders 2 years in advance? The money is fully refundable, so I don't see anything wrong with that business model. If people want to pre-order this far out, let them. No one is saying you have to order 2 years prior to get the car. The reveal showed a concept car, and they said it would be available late 2017, so people know how long the wait will be.

As far as the bolt or volt is concerned, the much, much more expensive model S outsold the volt by almost 10k units in 2015. 8k more than the LEAF. So I can only imagine how well the model 3 will do. Plus, the performance expectations for the bolt vs model 3 seem to be pretty far apart, and the price will be similar. One thing i'm curious about is if the supercharging stations that are available for the teslas, can be used with other electric cars. All I've seen from the bolt, is that it takes 9 hours to fully charge. You can supercharge the model 3 in 40 minutes and get 80% charged. To me, that's a huge game changer. You could actually drive cross country without stopping for 9 hours every 200 or so miles. Essentially making the bolt very limited on where you can go. it's basically just a commuter car that you can't take anywhere outside of 200 miles (round trip). So even if you could use charging stations across the country, you'd be there for hours.

As for how many of the 200-300k pre-orders that will actually still buy the car, I don't think it matters if only 50k people buy the car the first year, because the shear volume of pre-orders has actually destroyed their expectations of pre-orders in the first place. I understand the skepticism from Tesla, but I see a bright future for the model 3. There's nothing about it that's really negative. So it's up to Tesla to try and push out as many as they can, once the car goes into production. It's really not Tesla's fault for hundreds of thousands of people pre-ordering their car.

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I know I'll be putting a deposit down tonight. I'm just going to wait until the fast version comes out