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Originally Posted by newmoon
So with all the Z/28 inventory sitting on the dealer lots not moving you still consider the Z/28 a win for Chevy. If this car is so great why are they not selling?
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The more you post, the more clueless you sound. So only "great" cars are fast sellers? So the Corolla must be God's gift to the automotive world!
Once again, this is a
limited production, hardcore, track-oriented car. It caters to a very small niche of enthusiasts. Dodge's halo car sells what, 50 a month? And that's after stacking $15,000 on the hood.
While the rest of the World marvels at the fact that this car exists AT ALL, you continue to whine about the price as if Chevrolet owes you something. Believe me when I say, they do not.
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Originally Posted by newmoon
You would have thought that the supposed target buyers like GTR, Porsche, BMW, etc, owners would be selling their cars to buy this 75k bargain Z/28?
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You are clearly not the target audience for this car, nor do you understand the target demographic. GM didn't set out with intention to poach buyers away from the GT-R, 911 - those cars cost FAR more and offer more amenities, options and luxury than the Camaro. The Z/28 is a no frills, off the shelf track car. The fact that it performs on par with said cars for far less speaks volumes to the engineering efforts that went into it.
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Originally Posted by newmoon
Problem is they did not, while they may have been impressed with the track numbers they didn't feel the car was worth 75k, because after all it was still a Camaro. The Camaro loyalist couldn't afford the price tag.
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Camaro loyalists and track junkies CAN afford the Z/28 just like Dodge loyalists can afford a Hellcat. The Hellcat is still a Dodge no? Ford loyalists can afford the GT500 and GT350. We live in an age of $60k pony cars - accept it.
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Originally Posted by newmoon
Chevy made a mistake with the Z/28 going all out track only focus. They would have been much better served to have offered something similar to this GT350, a car within the financial reach that you could option up depending on your budget. Instead they wanted the editor headlines, which while entertaining to read very few would lay down the dollars to buy.
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That's like saying NASA made a mistake making space shuttles only perform well in space!? That's exactly what it was designed for! I'm sorry this disappoints you. I bet you get mad that your lawnmower won't make you sandwiches too. Not everyone is constrained by YOUR budget. You may have missed it, but Chevrolet launched a 1LE package for the SS in 2013 which kicked the wind, water and sh!t out of the Boss 302 LS for a measly $37,000. Want more track performance? There's the Z/28 or Corvette. It's nice to have options.
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Originally Posted by newmoon
To answer the question, no I can't think of another domestic car other than the Viper, and Vette that can compete with the Z/28 on the track.
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Please describe the back seat of the Viper and Corvette for us. I said 2+2 and I NEVER limited it to domestics. The base Corvette can't keep up with the Z/28 on the track and the base Viper is $10,000 more.
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Originally Posted by Stingray
IMO, the Z/28 isn't a failure in terms of performance... but in terms of sales and features/amenities for its pricepoint, then it falls behind.
I just think it was just overpriced from the getgo. It's clearly a one-hit wonder.... albeit an expensive one.
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As I said above, this car was NEVER intended to be a volume car. Be thankful it exists at all. As for the price, show me anything remotely close to this price that comes with carbon ceramic brakes, multimatic DSSV dampers and a hand built engine as standard equipment from the factory. Sure your gorgeous Z06 is superior in every way (except back seat space lol) but it too is a perennial performance bargain.