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Originally Posted by newmoon

Nobody here is saying that the Z/28 wouldn't have the clear advantage at the track, the problem is virtually nobody races at the track.

Such foolishness. How much time have you spent on racetracks? I've never gone to a racetrack and found nobody there! The fact is I have trouble even getting track time if I don't plan in advance. To so say "nobody races at the track" only underscores your lack of understanding.

Originally Posted by newmoon

So again where would the Z/28 have any advantage on a public road?

Once again, if a 700hp Hellcat can go full throttle 0-1XXmph on public streets then a 500hp Z/28 can take a high speed sweeper or highway clover-leaf at speeds that would make a Challenger wet itself. It's that simple. Neither would be safe, legal or wise.

Originally Posted by shaffe

This ^ this site is well know around the web and even at car meets for having insane amounts of fanboyism.

But its not just C5, Mustang6G is just as bad if not worse lol

I think the difference in, SVTperformance and Challengertalk are far less accommodating to outsiders. Every forum I've ever participated in has fanboys. I think the leniency at Camaro5 to allow discussions to carry on ad nauseum is somewhat unique. It takes a lot to get banned here. After all, they still let you post here despite my ban requests

Originally Posted by shaffe

If you want to get technical, what good is any performance oriented car on public roads if thats the route you two want to argue.

That's oversimplifying it. You can enjoy prodigious torque, you can enjoy balance, you can enjoy engagement, you can enjoy grip, and you can enjoy these things below the performance limits of the car. Will you experience the maximum performance of any car on the street vs a track? No, of course not.

Originally Posted by shaffe

I think what Newmoon is trying to say is that its easier to go ahead an go WOT for a quick blast than to go corner carving and really push a car to it's handling limits on public roads.

This is exactly what he's saying but I disagree. If you can go WOT for a quick blast, you can take a 240-degree descending off-ramp under throttle. You can toss the car into tight S-turns. You can lane-change in a split-second to avoid road debris. You use handling everyday. To say you can use 700hp but not great handling is ridiculous.

Originally Posted by shaffe

Can't we just accept it that the hellcat is not a total package car. As long as it doesn't handle like a matchbox car, it should handle plenty well enough to be fun to drive.

Of course it's not a total package car, but some (newmoon and rocket403) would lead you to believe that Hellcats drive WOT throttle everywhere they go all day long and everyone should only want to go fast in a straight-line. I feel largely about the Hellcat as I did the last GT500. Excellent engine in search of a chassis. I've said it a hundred times, the problem with the Dodge twins was never lack of power...