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Originally Posted by newmoon
Listen when I am looking for a quality automotive brand I seek out the manufacturer with the following 1st place standings.
ABC News’ John Kapetaneas reports:
General Motors is under scrutiny for yet another round of safety recalls, focusing this time on the power switches of several SUV models that could potentially catch fire when left unattended. GM is advising owners of select SUVs to park their vehicles outdoors until the problem can be fixed. Originally issued June 30 but now updated with the fire risk, this is the third such recall for this group of automobiles, which includes the 2006 and 2007 model Chevy Trailblazer, GMC Envoy, Buick Rainer, Saab 97-X and Isuzu Ascender. The recall will cover about 189,000 vehicles, and will be the 60th one issued this year. GM has faced some negative repercussions from the nearly 29 million cars it has called back for automotive issues, including an 80 percent drop in second-quarter profits two weeks ago.
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Your ever enduring ignorance on high display again. Recall's are PROACTIVE initiatives that PREVENT problems for occurring for owners in the future. This has nothing to do with dependability. Think of all the dependability issues that could be avoided for FCA if they utilized recalls adequately.
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Originally Posted by rocket403
Challenger reliability and consumer reviews show that the three Pony cars are very close in this area and I have not come across anyone that has had issues with their Challenger.
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So close the Challenger isn't even mentioned. They left the third spot UNFILLED as the Challenger was so far below the other two they couldn't include it.
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Originally Posted by newmoon
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My 10 Camaro's drive belt ate itself at the outer edge because the crank pulley wasn't properly aligned from the factory two months after purchase. Next the alternator died with no warning at all a few weeks later. Would this mean that Camaro's quality was bad? Or could it be that there were just a few minor issues with a new car?
On my 13 Ram my rear window trim piece became unglued at the corner, so I guess its quality is also bad. On my Wife's Honda mini-van 3/4 low tire pressure sensors were bad 2 weeks after delivery, and the passenger side visor mirrors died about a month after. I guess this makes it a bad quality brand as well. My 2012 5.0 Mustang MT82 transmission would not go into 3rd gear at hard throttle, it also had a blown door speaker, I guess it was bad as well.
To sum it up things happen with all brands.
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Yes, things happen to all brands. They happen even more frequently if they are FCA brands.
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Originally Posted by newmoon
What I am saying is I really don't care what JD Power says, where do they get their info? Is the info provided to them correct, is it a proper representation for the particular vehicle you presently own or will own?
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Of course you disregard what JD Power says - it goes against your opinion. Facts are annoying like that.
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Originally Posted by newmoon
What I go by is the experiences that I have had with the manufacturer. Going by this for the past 15 years I have had less issues with my Dodge products than the Ford, Honda, and Chevy products. But they all have had some issue regardless.
My experience with Dodge is 3 Dodge Rams, and 1 Challenger over the past 15 years and I have had 2 issues with the Rams, one covered out of the warranty period (heater bypass door), and the other within (rear window trim molding), the Challenger had no issues. I think this is a pretty good track record considering I tend to use my vehicles hard.
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All well and good. Doesn't change the fact that the average Dodge is going to end up at the dealer for service more frequently than just about every other vehicle on the road.