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Originally Posted by Denis
you can tout lap times and performance figures all you want...but at the end of the day, you commute to and from work in it and it sits in a parking lot all day. you're not hitting apex's and setting record lap times.
stop it.
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Don't make a blanket statement like that. I drive my Camaro to work once in a blue moon. I got this car to really drive it, heck all I do with it not is track / HPD it, club events and sometimes "commute" with it.
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Originally Posted by 90503
Some of us track our cars....and the Ring is perhaps the ultimate test/showcase....so, yeah, it's interesting...I hope Ford does well, thatGM re-acts, and we get to see some videos...All good...
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Exactly.
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Originally Posted by Denis
oh of course you can discuss it. the point I was making was not to get hung up on it. the time is just a measurement of what THAT driver did in THAT car on THAT day. not what the car can do. I couldn't hit anything close those times because im a regular guy. The average joe that buys cars like this because "OMG it can go so fast at the ring" are the same guys that get passed by a Miata at a track day.
if your a legit racer, sure, the numbers matter. but if your like the rest of us, the number are purely to spark conversation on internet forums and all they do is measure brand loyalty. everyone was so quick to praise the Z/28's lap time, but now that a proposed lap time for the GT350R is out suddenly the ring lap times aren't official.  |
I agree that I'm never going to get lap times like these pro drivers. However these lap times show what the car is capable of and it is particularly interesting to hear the review of the car's dynamics from a pro driver because while the GT500 may be able to achieve similar lap times at certain tracks as the ZL1 it has always been said that the ZL1 is easier to drive at the limit. Which means that the average Joe like myself who is tracking their own car, I'm more likely to be able to manage the car at the limit.
A car that can achieve great lap times on a track is typically a better car in general, unless you're looking at it from a comfort view point but if that were the case I wouldn't own a Camaro..
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Originally Posted by hotlapZL1
The Ring time represents the best time the manufacture's best driver could get after repeated attempts over a period of days, weeks or months.
The manufactures spend considerable time and dollars to refine a car to shave a few second and the cost is past on to the consumer. Its a reflection of how dialed in a car will feel.
The average guy won't use a ZL1 or Z/28's balance, 0-60 or braking capabilities on a daily basis but dismissing it all as irrelevant to us mere mortals is just another form of snobbery. IMO  Remember, " competition amongst manufactures benefits all".
Perhaps you'd just have us go back to the days of mere appearance kits on a base SS. |
