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Originally Posted by christianmotox

Exacly!!!! if their times are slower than the competitor why release them..... Plus, youre trying to compare 100+k cars vs 50 k cars...

Well if were getting nit picky like that

ZL1 is the only one possibly in the discussion under 75K
Z/28 is 75K
Z06 W/ Z07 was around 90K wasnt it? (no new Z06/Z07 time yet IIRC)
ZR1 was over 100K

Viper is over 100K
GTR is over 100K

Most expect the GT350R to be around 70K+ so where exactly is the problem with the 100K cars I listed? Ferrari and Lambo I get lol those are well over 200K in most cases lol

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

There are published times for the GT500 on the Nordschleife, they just didn't come from Ford.

http://fastestlaps.com/cars/ford_mus...gt500_659.html

And, then the pissing, moaning and accusations of fudging start.

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/10/30/s...urgring-video/

See how the accusation is GM falsified something, but the "third party" is okay basing their time off a video clip???

Thank you gretchen, this is why ring times IMO are not the best marketing tool. IIRC hasn't Nissan been accused of of something as well for the GTR times